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Oh man, you really hit some buttons with me via "Reddit" and "Transparency"! Here is the rant that has been building in me: The transparency I would like are t
by Nevermark 8y ago
Oh man, you really hit some buttons with me via "Reddit" and "Transparency"! Here is the rant that has been building in me:
The transparency I would like are three rules:
1) New policy statement: All subreddits must state moderation rules in their side bar.
2) New technical consistency: Open moderation logs for all subreddits.
3) New feature: An open log of moderation complaints for each subreddit. Each complaint costs the submitter $1 (or some reputation?) to avoid spam and most thoughtless complaints.
This requires very little from Reddit:
Changes (2) and (3) only require technical changes, no personnel intervention.
Change (1) Is a policy change, but only requires manual work from Reddit after high technical thresholds:
1a) When moderation complaint logs see a lot of submissions relative to subreddit activity, a warning is automatically sent to the moderators whose moderation is subject to complaints.
1b) Only when a moderator has received several warnings, will someone need to review the complaints, the moderation log and decide if a moderator should be removed, get a personal warning, given a clean slate with regard to past complaints, or no action.
1c) If three or more moderators for the same subreddit have to be removed due to consistent violation of the stated policy, then the subreddit can be closed.
The point of all this is:
* Users no longer have to deal with deceptive moderation.
* Users do most of the oversight, Reddit takes on very little extra work.
* Subreddits that spend a lot of time trying to police moderators of related sites can stop. Either there was no problem, it will clear up, or it will be dealt with.
* Reddit becomes more useful to everyone except deceptive moderators.
- paulddraper 8y agoI don't know about one and three, but just two would help a lot and be rather easy.
- seventhtiger 8y agoI disagree. Subreddits are absolutely owned by the top mod, originally whoever created them. It gets very political but I think your suggestions will just open up an avenue for aggressive takeovers of subreddits. If someone built a subreddit I think they should be free to do what they want with it. It is authoritarian and causes drama, but not nearly as much drama as if it was democratized and transparent. Bad faith actors can manufacture crises constantly to take over a subreddit. It's happened already.
- sridca 8y ago> It's happened already. Where?
- kkarakk 8y agor/punchablefaces was one if i remember. some people got really riled in that case
- spiralx 8y agoThe top mod of /r/punchablefaces decided that he was going to give it away and offered it to the first person to accept it of two other mods, one from a left-leaning sub, one from a right-leaning sub. The left-leaning one accepted first, and got ownership.
- sridca 8y agoReddit is already one of the most heavily censored websites on the internet[1], so I like these rules. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19151922 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19151922