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I see that too. In the 90s a lot of developers were self taught and were self motivated to solve problems. With recent hires I see a lot of people who probably

I see that too. In the 90s a lot of developers were self taught and were self motivated to solve problems. With recent hires I see a lot of people who probably did CS for a good career but don’t really care about the craft. If something doesn’t work exactly as it should they just give up.

SomethingOrNot 8y ago
Remember back in <good old days> when people were authentic and real and not opportunistic fakers? Load up the resentful pioneer module, Billy.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  I am not resentful. It's a pretty normal thing when a profession gets more professional and is considered highly paid. It attracts people who aren't naturally attracted to the job. From observation a lot of doctors aren't that enthusiastic about their profession either but do it for the reputation and money.
- tonyedgecombe 8y ago
  There is definitely a division between people who are attracted to the profession because they have an intrinsic interest and those looking for extrinsic rewards. I bet asking what age someone started programming is as good an interview question as any other.
  - SomethingOrNot 8y ago
    I would fail that interrogation. :-)
    - maxxxxx 8y ago
      I'd fail that too. I didn't have the money to get a computer. But I am mechanical engineer and in my first job I quickly was the guy who wrote macros for our CAD system instead of doing designs with it. I never liked using the CAD system but I loved writing code for it. That would indicate a natural attraction to writing code.
chrisco255 8y ago
I wasn't a developer in the 90s, but generally speaking, the legacy code that still exists from that era is absolute garbage.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  Most of the code we are writing now will be garbage in 20 years too. Guaranteed. You do your best with the tools and knowledge you have at the moment. That's all you can do.
  - chrisco255 8y ago
    Not mine, maxxxxx, nope, my code is TIMELESS. ;-D

SomethingOrNot 8y ago

Remember back in <good old days> when people were authentic and real and not opportunistic fakers? Load up the resentful pioneer module, Billy.

maxxxxx 8y ago
I am not resentful. It's a pretty normal thing when a profession gets more professional and is considered highly paid. It attracts people who aren't naturally attracted to the job. From observation a lot of doctors aren't that enthusiastic about their profession either but do it for the reputation and money.
tonyedgecombe 8y ago
There is definitely a division between people who are attracted to the profession because they have an intrinsic interest and those looking for extrinsic rewards. I bet asking what age someone started programming is as good an interview question as any other.
- SomethingOrNot 8y ago
  I would fail that interrogation. :-)
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    I'd fail that too. I didn't have the money to get a computer. But I am mechanical engineer and in my first job I quickly was the guy who wrote macros for our CAD system instead of doing designs with it. I never liked using the CAD system but I loved writing code for it. That would indicate a natural attraction to writing code.

chrisco255 8y ago

I wasn't a developer in the 90s, but generally speaking, the legacy code that still exists from that era is absolute garbage.

maxxxxx 8y ago
Most of the code we are writing now will be garbage in 20 years too. Guaranteed. You do your best with the tools and knowledge you have at the moment. That's all you can do.
- chrisco255 8y ago
  Not mine, maxxxxx, nope, my code is TIMELESS. ;-D