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H1 Absolutely DOES lower power of an employee. You are basically a "slave" to a company until you get your green card and are free to quit. Especially in today

by readhn 8y ago

H1 Absolutely DOES lower power of an employee. You are basically a "slave" to a company until you get your green card and are free to quit. Especially in today's socio-political environment.

euos 8y ago
No. You can easily transfer H1. I did that twice. It’s L1s that are not transferable.
- munk-a 8y ago
  Just to clarify, if you're transferring an H-1B visa you're moving from one offered H-1B visa advertised job to another H-1B visa advertised job - you are not able to transfer the H-1B visa to a regularly posted job... so your options are restricted to finding another H-1B visa that fits your precise skill set - again likely written up by their companies HR to specifically target you as an employee... And you need to do all that without pissing off your current employer enough that he finds fault with your work and tries to get you kicked out before you can transfer? Seems easy.
sys_64738 8y ago
You're not a slave. You're brought in on a non-immigrant visa to fill a skills gap that a company has. You are free to leave the USA any time you want and certainly don't need an exit visa nor permission of your employer to leave.
- munk-a 8y ago
  Wat. Do you feel like it wouldn't be a violation of your rights if someone seized your house, handed you a pile of cash and told you to get out of the country? That's more extreme then what's being talked about but not by much. When it comes to freedoms "technically not slavery" is not one that I value as particularly free. A person is moving their life to this country, they are becoming a resident and joining a community. If they behave well I think the process for them to become a full PR should be easy, and the threat of losing their job shouldn't be bundled with losing everything that currently makes their life stable.
  - sys_64738 8y ago
    What are you talking about? Go read about what an H1B visa is for. It’s not a draconian attempt to own anybody as those coming into it should know the precise limitations of this non-immigrant visa.
    - kelnos 8y ago
      I have a feeling that you and the parent poster (and I) have different views on immigration in general, which is fine, but it's going to color how we view certain restrictions on certain visas. The objection is essentially that the US is imposing fairly-arbitrary restrictions on H-1B holders that make it difficult and stressful to live and work in the US... for no good reason. You can say stuff like "they should have known the limitations of the visa and what they were getting into", and that's correct. But my position is one of empathy. Sure, the US government is certainly within its rights to create a visa program like this. My position, fundamentally, is that it shouldn't. It should treat people like people, not interchangeable worker cogs that should feel blessed just to be allowed to spend time in the US. It's incredibly arrogant and heartless, and I object to the entire thing on moral and ethical grounds. The US is one of the few developed nations that has such a strict, heartless immigration system, and frankly it makes me ashamed as a natural-born US citizen to see how we treat citizens of other nations who enrich our economy and lives.

by readhn 8y ago

H1 Absolutely DOES lower power of an employee. You are basically a "slave" to a company until you get your green card and are free to quit. Especially in today's socio-political environment.

euos 8y ago

No. You can easily transfer H1. I did that twice. It’s L1s that are not transferable.

munk-a 8y ago
Just to clarify, if you're transferring an H-1B visa you're moving from one offered H-1B visa advertised job to another H-1B visa advertised job - you are not able to transfer the H-1B visa to a regularly posted job... so your options are restricted to finding another H-1B visa that fits your precise skill set - again likely written up by their companies HR to specifically target you as an employee... And you need to do all that without pissing off your current employer enough that he finds fault with your work and tries to get you kicked out before you can transfer? Seems easy.

sys_64738 8y ago

You're not a slave. You're brought in on a non-immigrant visa to fill a skills gap that a company has. You are free to leave the USA any time you want and certainly don't need an exit visa nor permission of your employer to leave.

munk-a 8y ago
Wat. Do you feel like it wouldn't be a violation of your rights if someone seized your house, handed you a pile of cash and told you to get out of the country? That's more extreme then what's being talked about but not by much. When it comes to freedoms "technically not slavery" is not one that I value as particularly free. A person is moving their life to this country, they are becoming a resident and joining a community. If they behave well I think the process for them to become a full PR should be easy, and the threat of losing their job shouldn't be bundled with losing everything that currently makes their life stable.
- sys_64738 8y ago
  What are you talking about? Go read about what an H1B visa is for. It’s not a draconian attempt to own anybody as those coming into it should know the precise limitations of this non-immigrant visa.
  - kelnos 8y ago
    I have a feeling that you and the parent poster (and I) have different views on immigration in general, which is fine, but it's going to color how we view certain restrictions on certain visas. The objection is essentially that the US is imposing fairly-arbitrary restrictions on H-1B holders that make it difficult and stressful to live and work in the US... for no good reason. You can say stuff like "they should have known the limitations of the visa and what they were getting into", and that's correct. But my position is one of empathy. Sure, the US government is certainly within its rights to create a visa program like this. My position, fundamentally, is that it shouldn't. It should treat people like people, not interchangeable worker cogs that should feel blessed just to be allowed to spend time in the US. It's incredibly arrogant and heartless, and I object to the entire thing on moral and ethical grounds. The US is one of the few developed nations that has such a strict, heartless immigration system, and frankly it makes me ashamed as a natural-born US citizen to see how we treat citizens of other nations who enrich our economy and lives.