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I'm all for requiring businesses to get explicit permission from me before they can make the little box in my pocket buzz and interrupt me.
by whyaduck 8y ago
I'm all for requiring businesses to get explicit permission from me before they can make the little box in my pocket buzz and interrupt me.
- TheSoftwareGuy 8y agoWhat about individuals though? I think that is the point in question here
- whyaduck 8y agoThe regulations could have been reworked to exempt individuals using smartphones. I don't think it's that hard to write a reg that makes that distinction.
- _jal 8y agoNobody's[1] goal is to stop you from calling your neighbor to tell them they left their garage open or whatever. That's the sort of thing telemarketing astroturfers love to go on about, squirting squid-ink to confuse things. [1] I'm sure it is someone's.
- munk-a 8y agoI'm... not so much, I'd prefer that they be required to register with an organization that can bop them on the head if they abuse it. I wouldn't want to see statistical surveys, polling and other grey area items here impacted.
- dvtrn 8y agoI'd prefer that they be required to register with an organization that can bop them on the head if they abuse it. I know the FCC doesn't have express legislative power here, but can't they impose fines or am I mistaken-on either or both?
- sureaboutthis 8y agoThe FCC fines television and radio stations for regulation violations.
- JohnFen 8y ago> I wouldn't want to see statistical surveys, polling and other grey area items here impacted. Since literally everyone I personally know has given up answering calls because of all the spam, I'd say that your "grey area" items are already being impacted.
- garmaine 8y ago> I wouldn't want to see statistical surveys, polling and other grey area items here impacted. That was the case before. Political polls and other related things were explicitly exempted.
- michaelt 8y agoAllow me to introduce you to 'push polling' [1] where you disguise marketing as polling. For example, you "survey" people with questions like "Are you aware that Hello Fresh delivers in your area?" and "Would you be more or less likely to vote for Barack Hussein Obama if you knew he was a Muslim?" Sadly surveys and polling are already spam, anyone who wants to get rid of phone spam will have to ban nonconsensual telephone polling as well. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll
- phkahler 8y agoIt should be enough to force the called ID to be valid. Then the crappy people will know you can identify them or even call them back. Removing anonymity should go a long way.
- ummonk 8y agoWouldn’t that just result in orgs making their calls through shell call center services?
- kd0amg 8y agoThis is arguably a step forward, if it means there's someone to subpoena for information about the robocaller.
- faster 8y agoIt would depend on what constitutes a valid caller ID. At least some of the robodialer operators programatically check out a block of numbers from a VoIP vendor, make a bunch of calls, then release the numbers. If all they have to do is correctly report the number they're calling from, that's pretty useless. The called party has practically no recourse because the number that called them never accepted inbound calls, and has been disconnected by the time you call it back anyway. How could 'valid caller ID' be defined so that robocallers can be identified?
- abhorrence 8y agoIf the number in caller id is accurate, it provides a decent reporting channel. It’d make it easier for telecom providers to take abuse reports and punish the abusive robodialers, whether by cutting them off or referring them to law enforcement.
- JohnFen 8y ago> It’d make it easier for telecom providers to take abuse reports and punish the abusive robodialers They simply aren't going to do that unless they're forced by law or regulation.