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just preemtively say no and leave the site. this is just another tracking vector for google and it should be discouraged. i'm generally against this type of ga
by clairity 8y ago
just preemtively say no and leave the site. this is just another tracking vector for google and it should be discouraged.
i'm generally against this type of gating, where the people doing the right thing get punished disproportionately (even small slices of time add up to wasting thousands of human-years over the population) just to combat the tiny number of bad actors. target the bad actors directly.
it's the same for tsa security theater. let's put all those humans to work training dogs of all sorts and filtering them through people at the airport. the money for those privacy invading scanners can be put toward training and housing the dogs. our collective time is not wasted on silliness and standing in line, and we'd probably save a lot of tax dollars that way.
- EpicEng 8y agoYeah... but I really want to buy that <whatever>, so meh, I'll put up with it. There are only so many hills I'm willing to die on.
- ocdtrekkie 8y agoAnd this feeling right here, is why Google is able to do all of the things that it does. ;)
- xirdstl 8y agoI'm getting closer to doing that. Lately, I check the box, and if I'm presented with images, I leave. I have also trained myself to wait a few seconds before clicking the box, which seems to help assert my humanity.
- afandian 8y agoWait til it's standing between you and your bank account.
- russh 8y agoYou mean my Ex-bank account.
- EpicEng 8y agoYeah I don't imagine anyone will actually do this if they actually care about what's on the other side.
- hombre_fatal 8y agoYeah, the extreme comments that we see whenever the topic of ReCaptcha comes up are especially amusing because HN uses it on its own register/login page.
- snazz 8y agoPhone banking hasn’t died yet, luckily.
- afandian 8y agoYeah it's ironic. It's more convenient to use the phone to get my balance, even if you count the time spent listening to the recorded message telling me how much better my life would be if I used Internet banking.
- airstrike 8y agoWith the Wells Fargo iOS app all I have to do is stare at the screen for Face ID to kick in and I'm in my account, no captcha needed.
- JohnFen 8y agoIt can't block the doorway into the bank branch.
- Bartweiss 8y ago> I have also trained myself to wait a few seconds before clicking the box, which seems to help assert my humanity. I wonder how many different weird rituals are out there for 'beating' CAPTCHA? For me, I usually make some effort to keep moving my mouse and being "active" after clicking the box, on the idea that an isolated click event looks less human. It's based on a friend's tip and it seems to help, but I have no confidence that it's actually relevant in such a complex system. I sort of suspect Google has created a new generation of meaningless routines fit to rival historical standouts like sports rituals.
- detritus 8y agoSadly, the parcel tracking functionality of the Royal Mail's site here in the UK uses it, so I have little choice but to go through this rigmarole a few times a week. On the one hand, fuck Google for wanting another vector with which to track me, on the other hand, why can't it remember that I proved to it that I'm human (allegedly) two days ago?
- alcover 8y ago> why can't it remember that I proved to it that I'm human Maybe to prevent bot operators from manually aquiring a human-cookie then let their bot operate for ever ?
- detritus 8y agoI was being a bit pithy, but in that case, surely there's some sequence of smart fuzzily-heuristic analysis that can be played out to check that my humanised identification isn't acting like a bot?
- alcover 8y agoIf this heuristic is constantly necessary then there is nothing to remember.
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- koonsolo 8y agoIt's either that or getting your entire forum spammed with hundreds of spam posts. I'm using that captcha on my website, and I can tell you, that one works 100% while the other ones don't.
- clairity 8y agoyes, the problem is prevalent and (small) forum operators bear the pain acutely. i'm not so dogmatic that i can't sympathize with your need for a working, if imperfect, solution, or as a user, needing to jump through the captcha hoops occasionally. this is a subtle externality borne from scale combined with zero marginal cost. we need to find a way to make the bad actors bear the cost of that externality rather than the rest of us. it's a hard problem that resists simple solutions like captchas, certificate signing, delivery fees, taxes, or even just outlawing the practice. as a lowly consumer, one of the few levers i have is curtailing my use of services employing (google) captchas.
- ttty 8y agoBut how many real people are you losing? You have no idea
- koonsolo 8y agoLess than when my forum is full of spam posts and it takes me 1h daily to remove them.
- justtopost 8y agoI do this after being blackholed by goolgles captcha a dozen times. If your site reli3s on google you are the problem at this point. I am not a data point. I am a free man.