On Windows I see very similar results. Discord, doing nothing, idles at 165mb of memory usage and Signal (with even fewer features than Discord) manages to use

On Windows I see very similar results. Discord, doing nothing, idles at 165mb of memory usage and Signal (with even fewer features than Discord) manages to use 233mb while doing fuck all. Telegram, which has just as many features, idles at 78.5 (still a lot!!) and opens in literally 5ms instead of loading up for 30+ seconds. >what people don't seem to get is the experience of using Electron is miles ahead of anything else in convenience. That just blatantly isn't true. QML has the same "write markup run JS" idea and WPF is just XML bound to whatever .NET language you want. They might take a few minutes to learn if you already know web programming, but once you start writing code it doesn't take any longer than writing the equivalent HTML/JS/CSS. Like the OP said, React Native accomplishes the same but runs 1000x better. Getting people to step away from Electron for 5 seconds, especially when they have the resources to do so (i.e. Slack being able to raise $400 million this year, Discord raising $150 million, etc.) It's insane that none of these companies have spent the tiny amount of time working on some open-source framework that's better than Electron.