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>massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians As indicated in the article, there's evidence [0] that there is profound underrepresentation at the lea

>massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians As indicated in the article, there's evidence [0] that there is profound underrepresentation at the leadership level relative to junior representation. [0] https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ascendleadership.org/resource/resmgr/research/TheIllusionofAsianSuccess.pdf https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ascendleadership.org/resource/...

ralusek 8y ago
Yes, but again, the assumption is racial discrimination. That is the de facto assumption for every possible case. What about language, or culture, confidence, etc? If you are a foreigner to a country, of which many Asians are either first or second generation, you might be comfortable performing culturally agnostic technical feats, but not at all confident taking a leadership role. Or if we want to entertain that there is discrimination at play, how does cultural discrimination map on to racism. You discriminate culturally when choosing who to be friends with. If you like bros, hipsters, nerds, outdoorsie types, etc, you're making a cultural discrimination. If there is a degree of correlation between culture and race/ethnicity, which there is, then how might that come into play regarding the roles people assume in an organization? The presumption of racial discrimination in a vacuum is a refusal to content with any level of nuance or complexity.
- longerthoughts 8y ago
  You're dismissing my point and deflecting with something that I neither referenced nor disputed. You made this claim: >the "anti-brown people" narrative absolutely dissolves in the face of the massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians. Nothing you have said constitutes absolute dissolution of this narrative. The one measurable claim you made was overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians, which holds no water in light of drastic underrepresentation at the senior level. After I pointed that out, you responded with why you believe that discrepancy could be justified. How does that constitute irrefutable evidence that the narrative is misguided?
username90 8y ago
Does that take into account that China graduates 7 times as many people today as 20 years ago? It makes sense that there are few Asians in leadership positions simply because they barely have any educated people with lots of experience. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/PSSvl1XRKP4L2tFL2PNtPufC-vkFfy8j6lbozV_pisg.JPG https://assets.weforum.org/editor/PSSvl1XRKP4L2tFL2PNtPufC-v...

ralusek 8y ago

Yes, but again, the assumption is racial discrimination. That is the de facto assumption for every possible case. What about language, or culture, confidence, etc? If you are a foreigner to a country, of which many Asians are either first or second generation, you might be comfortable performing culturally agnostic technical feats, but not at all confident taking a leadership role. Or if we want to entertain that there is discrimination at play, how does cultural discrimination map on to racism. You discriminate culturally when choosing who to be friends with. If you like bros, hipsters, nerds, outdoorsie types, etc, you're making a cultural discrimination. If there is a degree of correlation between culture and race/ethnicity, which there is, then how might that come into play regarding the roles people assume in an organization? The presumption of racial discrimination in a vacuum is a refusal to content with any level of nuance or complexity.

longerthoughts 8y ago
You're dismissing my point and deflecting with something that I neither referenced nor disputed. You made this claim: >the "anti-brown people" narrative absolutely dissolves in the face of the massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians. Nothing you have said constitutes absolute dissolution of this narrative. The one measurable claim you made was overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians, which holds no water in light of drastic underrepresentation at the senior level. After I pointed that out, you responded with why you believe that discrepancy could be justified. How does that constitute irrefutable evidence that the narrative is misguided?

username90 8y ago

Does that take into account that China graduates 7 times as many people today as 20 years ago? It makes sense that there are few Asians in leadership positions simply because they barely have any educated people with lots of experience. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/PSSvl1XRKP4L2tFL2PNtPufC-vkFfy8j6lbozV_pisg.JPG https://assets.weforum.org/editor/PSSvl1XRKP4L2tFL2PNtPufC-v...