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I'm surprised it even has a spare. Really surprised.

cptskippy 8y ago
Why? To me this truck is like the Mercedes G Class, it isn't meant to be practical or realistic. It's a status symbol meant to perpetuate an image. It has to meet all of the expectations one would have of a pickup truck even though it will never be used like one.
- jschwartzi 8y ago
  I would use the shit out of this thing as a pickup truck. It meets all my needs for something I can drive to a trailhead fully loaded with other hikers.
  - cptskippy 8y ago
    I'm not saying there isn't a market for electric trucks, I'm just saying that few people are in the market for an electric pickup truck in the $100k+ price range for off-roading. Judging by the specs on these things, I'd honestly be surprised if they could produce these for less than $125k.
    - yellowapple 8y ago
      Apparently the target starting price (for baseline) is at the mid-80k range for the large battery model and closer to 60k for the medium and small battery models: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-rivian-r1t-ev-first-look-electric-pickup-truck/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-rivian-r1t-ev-first-loo... That might very well be ambitious, though, and even if they do meet those targets, that's still considerably more expensive than a Tacoma.
      - cptskippy 8y ago
        I would really be surprised if they could meet that price point without making serious compromises in other areas. The battery pack cost alone is going to be a large percentage of total cost.
  - yellowapple 8y ago
    And it meets all of my needs hauling stuff around on less-than-ideal road conditions (or no road at all). It's expensive and fancy-looking, but it still looks to be quite usable. My issues with it boil down more to the exclusively-touchscreen interface (it's the exact opposite of what I want to use while driving) and the high pricetag compared to, say, a Tacoma.
    - cptskippy 8y ago
      Price is really the sticking point as far as I can tell. They're pricing a little over 2x what most people spend on trucks and I wouldn't at all be surprised if that price went up another 50% before it's actually for sale. It's going to be limited audience at first, unless batteries come down in price significantly. So I can understand all the design decisions to appeal to a high end market but ... idk. I definitely agree with you about the touch interfaces. The Model 3 needs more buttons.

Why? To me this truck is like the Mercedes G Class, it isn't meant to be practical or realistic. It's a status symbol meant to perpetuate an image. It has to meet all of the expectations one would have of a pickup truck even though it will never be used like one.

jschwartzi 8y ago
I would use the shit out of this thing as a pickup truck. It meets all my needs for something I can drive to a trailhead fully loaded with other hikers.
- cptskippy 8y ago
  I'm not saying there isn't a market for electric trucks, I'm just saying that few people are in the market for an electric pickup truck in the $100k+ price range for off-roading. Judging by the specs on these things, I'd honestly be surprised if they could produce these for less than $125k.
  - yellowapple 8y ago
    Apparently the target starting price (for baseline) is at the mid-80k range for the large battery model and closer to 60k for the medium and small battery models: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-rivian-r1t-ev-first-look-electric-pickup-truck/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-rivian-r1t-ev-first-loo... That might very well be ambitious, though, and even if they do meet those targets, that's still considerably more expensive than a Tacoma.
    - cptskippy 8y ago
      I would really be surprised if they could meet that price point without making serious compromises in other areas. The battery pack cost alone is going to be a large percentage of total cost.
- yellowapple 8y ago
  And it meets all of my needs hauling stuff around on less-than-ideal road conditions (or no road at all). It's expensive and fancy-looking, but it still looks to be quite usable. My issues with it boil down more to the exclusively-touchscreen interface (it's the exact opposite of what I want to use while driving) and the high pricetag compared to, say, a Tacoma.
  - cptskippy 8y ago
    Price is really the sticking point as far as I can tell. They're pricing a little over 2x what most people spend on trucks and I wouldn't at all be surprised if that price went up another 50% before it's actually for sale. It's going to be limited audience at first, unless batteries come down in price significantly. So I can understand all the design decisions to appeal to a high end market but ... idk. I definitely agree with you about the touch interfaces. The Model 3 needs more buttons.