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You've made light of that, to the point where I feel you're condoning his behavior just because he's a great hacker Your words keep linking the two together. M

You've made light of that, to the point where I feel you're condoning his behavior just because he's a great hacker Your words keep linking the two together. Mine don't. Your words above suggest that I am saying that since he's a great hacker, his behaviour is less serious than were he Joe Average Citizen. That is so far from what I'm saying that I don't know how to explain the difference using mere words. What I'm saying is that his hacking was his hacking and his behaviour is his behaviour. This one over here, that one over there. His hacking doesn't excuse his behaviour for exactly the same reason that his behaviour doesn't devalue his hacking. which really pisses me off I am not responsible for your blood pressure. Unsolicited advice: Never, EVER allow the words of strangers to control your emotions. It's probably just babble, but I find it comforting to frame my own feelings at a time like this in terms of sadness instead of anger. I'm saddened about certain behaviour, but I'm not angry with certain people. Makes all the difference to me.

chaostheory 16y ago
"What I'm saying is that his hacking was his hacking and his behaviour is his behaviour. His hacking doesn't excuse his behaviour for exactly the same reason that his behaviour doesn't devalue his hacking." Unfortunately this is how I understood your previous posts. "hey guys it's not wrong that you talk about his misdeeds but I wanted this post to be about glorifying Crunch. Anyone talking about his misdeeds is lame and not a hacker." You linked to an article about John Draper, the person. You didn't link to EasyWriter or his other work. Now you're surprised when people talk about all aspects of Crunch instead of just one? No one devalued his work. Everyone was just warning of his behavior. Next time do a post on his work, not the person so others won't get confused. "I am not responsible for your blood pressure." I'm only human, not a machine. I don't appreciate your patronization either.
- raganwald 16y ago
  I will not defend words I didn't write. I will repeat what I did write, which was to suggest that I was saddened by the proportion of interest, and to say for the third time that I do not believe anyone is wrong to have a certain interest or to talk about it here. Since you have a suggestion for me, I have one for you: Update the wikipedia article about John Draper the person to include information relevant for people who wish to understand John Draper the person. Pax. UPDATE: I don't appreciate your patronization either. You're right about that. I apologize.
  - chaostheory 16y ago
    "Focusing on Draper's awful social presence at the expense of discussing what he actually did or didn't do during his heyday... Seems so very un-hacker to me."

chaostheory 16y ago

"What I'm saying is that his hacking was his hacking and his behaviour is his behaviour. His hacking doesn't excuse his behaviour for exactly the same reason that his behaviour doesn't devalue his hacking." Unfortunately this is how I understood your previous posts. "hey guys it's not wrong that you talk about his misdeeds but I wanted this post to be about glorifying Crunch. Anyone talking about his misdeeds is lame and not a hacker." You linked to an article about John Draper, the person. You didn't link to EasyWriter or his other work. Now you're surprised when people talk about all aspects of Crunch instead of just one? No one devalued his work. Everyone was just warning of his behavior. Next time do a post on his work, not the person so others won't get confused. "I am not responsible for your blood pressure." I'm only human, not a machine. I don't appreciate your patronization either.

raganwald 16y ago
I will not defend words I didn't write. I will repeat what I did write, which was to suggest that I was saddened by the proportion of interest, and to say for the third time that I do not believe anyone is wrong to have a certain interest or to talk about it here. Since you have a suggestion for me, I have one for you: Update the wikipedia article about John Draper the person to include information relevant for people who wish to understand John Draper the person. Pax. UPDATE: I don't appreciate your patronization either. You're right about that. I apologize.
- chaostheory 16y ago
  "Focusing on Draper's awful social presence at the expense of discussing what he actually did or didn't do during his heyday... Seems so very un-hacker to me."