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> capitalism doesn’t work, at all. i look at north korea then i look at south korea. if capitalism doesn't work, at all, then communism must negatively work.

jordanbeiber 8y ago
Questioning the end result of capitalism is obviously touchy for many... My comment was simply that you can question the state of capitalism in the world today without suggesting that communism should take it’s place. P.s Also, have a talk to the insects, polar bears, cheetahs (only 7000 of them beauties left), etc. Out of whack and out of balance.
- mc32 8y ago
  I would agree that communism is better at regulating population than other forms of government. And since population pressure is the main driver behind incursion into wildernesses, I’d agree communism would handle over pop more “efficiently” but not morally better. On the other hand communism typically suffered from stunted innovation, outside of targeted areas, so they probably would be worse off, if they didn’t import tech from non communist states.
  - jordanbeiber 8y ago
    I kind of agree with what you’re saying, but it still lacks a lot of nuance. Most good stuff arises from public funded research imo. How and why? Because it’s down to individuals that are allowed to do their thing. This gets stiffled in a short term, for profit organization. What we’re left with is often conservatism. Too many big orgs with big money simply want to keep things as they are, and it’s clear (or should be to everyone) that this is not wanted or sustainable. Regarding man earth balance it’s currently down to over consumtion by us in the west. As your average Swede I consume approximately 4 earths worth of resources. We either changes this behaviour volontarily or bad things will happen eventually. There’s a lot of power in those piles of cash though so anyone that want’s to change anything is in for a tough fight. Also, morality... you probably consume stuff originating from sweat shops and child labour. We’ll it’s not our children! Lot of high horses in the ”west” unfortunateley.

jordanbeiber 8y ago

Questioning the end result of capitalism is obviously touchy for many... My comment was simply that you can question the state of capitalism in the world today without suggesting that communism should take it’s place. P.s Also, have a talk to the insects, polar bears, cheetahs (only 7000 of them beauties left), etc. Out of whack and out of balance.

mc32 8y ago
I would agree that communism is better at regulating population than other forms of government. And since population pressure is the main driver behind incursion into wildernesses, I’d agree communism would handle over pop more “efficiently” but not morally better. On the other hand communism typically suffered from stunted innovation, outside of targeted areas, so they probably would be worse off, if they didn’t import tech from non communist states.
- jordanbeiber 8y ago
  I kind of agree with what you’re saying, but it still lacks a lot of nuance. Most good stuff arises from public funded research imo. How and why? Because it’s down to individuals that are allowed to do their thing. This gets stiffled in a short term, for profit organization. What we’re left with is often conservatism. Too many big orgs with big money simply want to keep things as they are, and it’s clear (or should be to everyone) that this is not wanted or sustainable. Regarding man earth balance it’s currently down to over consumtion by us in the west. As your average Swede I consume approximately 4 earths worth of resources. We either changes this behaviour volontarily or bad things will happen eventually. There’s a lot of power in those piles of cash though so anyone that want’s to change anything is in for a tough fight. Also, morality... you probably consume stuff originating from sweat shops and child labour. We’ll it’s not our children! Lot of high horses in the ”west” unfortunateley.