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The project they describe IS a Go port of carlo (it's even named lorca). carlo/lorca is meaningfully different than electron. Electron takes chrome code base,

by kjksf 8y ago

The project they describe IS a Go port of carlo (it's even named lorca). carlo/lorca is meaningfully different than electron. Electron takes chrome code base, adds node.js code, a bunch of other stuff and makes it an SDK. As a result Electron-based app consists of a copy of chrome a copy of node and maybe 2% of the total size is unique to the app. carlo/lorca re-use Chrome instance already installed so 100% of the size is unique to the app. That removes the biggest complaint about electron i.e. bloat of shipping 100+ MB of SDK to deliver 100 kB of app.

chatmasta 8y ago
I think the biggest complaint about electron is not bloat of shipping the app (a one time download, not a big deal in modern times), but running the app. Since each electron program uses its own instance of Chrome, there is no resource sharing and so memory consumption is high.
- bpye 8y ago
  Absolutely. I don't really care about the size on disk, a little bit, but not really. What I really care about is some application using far too much RA - Chrome (and by extension Electron) is notourious.
andreareina 8y ago
So if I don't already have Chrome I now have to install it?
- kjksf 8y ago
  What lorca does: it shows a message box telling the user to download chrome. What is possible and easy (and what I would do if I was shipping an app using it): silently download chrome on first run if Chrome is not already downloaded. That's an obviously good idea from the point of view of the user.
  - PunchTornado 8y ago
    silently download chrome is a good idea? why don't you tell the user if it wants Google's browser on his computer?
  - andreareina 8y ago
    I would not be happy if some bit of software "helpfully" downloaded a copy of Chrome for me.
tracker1 8y ago
I'm not against it... just the way it was presented was supposed to be so much bigger in terms of runtime. So the biggest complaints against electron/chrome still hold. Didn't catch the carlo/lorca naming thing. And, tbh, I'm all for it... I think electron is slightly better in some ways as I like the idea of one language everywhere, but that's less an issue.

by kjksf 8y ago

chatmasta 8y ago

I think the biggest complaint about electron is not bloat of shipping the app (a one time download, not a big deal in modern times), but running the app. Since each electron program uses its own instance of Chrome, there is no resource sharing and so memory consumption is high.

bpye 8y ago
Absolutely. I don't really care about the size on disk, a little bit, but not really. What I really care about is some application using far too much RA - Chrome (and by extension Electron) is notourious.

andreareina 8y ago

So if I don't already have Chrome I now have to install it?

kjksf 8y ago
What lorca does: it shows a message box telling the user to download chrome. What is possible and easy (and what I would do if I was shipping an app using it): silently download chrome on first run if Chrome is not already downloaded. That's an obviously good idea from the point of view of the user.
- PunchTornado 8y ago
  silently download chrome is a good idea? why don't you tell the user if it wants Google's browser on his computer?
- andreareina 8y ago
  I would not be happy if some bit of software "helpfully" downloaded a copy of Chrome for me.

tracker1 8y ago

I'm not against it... just the way it was presented was supposed to be so much bigger in terms of runtime. So the biggest complaints against electron/chrome still hold. Didn't catch the carlo/lorca naming thing. And, tbh, I'm all for it... I think electron is slightly better in some ways as I like the idea of one language everywhere, but that's less an issue.