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Java itself makes things a pain. Compare establishing a tls connection with a client certificate in python and in java. Guess which language has a secure one li

• coldtea 8y ago
  >Compare establishing a tls connection with a client certificate in python and in java. Guess which language has a secure one line way to do it. Nothing in Java prevents a Java network lib from doing it in one line. In fact many third party network libs do just that. (And Python had more or less a similar unwieldy network lib, which is why they now say "Requests is suggested" on their own standard lib documentation: https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/urllib.html https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/urllib.html ). So again it's not the language (syntax + semantics), it's what's considered "idiomatic" and what's prevalent.
  • pjmlp 8y ago
    Still it is possible to write J2EE on any language (wrote J2EE on purpose). I have it seen done in Clipper, C, C++ and I bet even Go will one day have its Go2EE, it just needs a bit more enterprise love.
    • Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
      > Still it is possible to write J2EE on any language Right. The difference is that for some reason, writing Java in the J2EE style seems to be the default, and rather than stopping the practice, people choose to hate the language instead, as if they think the J2EE style is required by the language.
      • pjmlp 8y ago
        Yep, I love how Java bashers get to deploy micro-services at scale, using Docker containers, managed via Kubernetes, with DSLs written via Terraform APIs.