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Won't they have witness protection though?

perfmode 8y ago
Good luck hiding from the most profitable black market corporation in the history of civilization.
guessmyname 8y ago
Oh wow! I envy your ignorance. Mexican cartels are some of the worst organizations in the world. They don’t want to kill you, they want to make you suffer. They will kill his family, the family of his family, and maybe the whole neighborhood just to make him go crazy, and then —right at the end— they will kill him. If the IT guy was smart enough to hide all his family’s information, then maybe they are safe, but he is still in danger because the mafia will bride someone from the protection program to kill him, and I don’t mean “bride” with money, no, I mean bride them with their own life, because if the person from the protection program doesn’t gives them access to the IT guy, they will kill their family too. I am exaggerating a little bit, maybe I shouldn’t even write this considering that I’m spreading the fear, and that’s probably what they want —same as other organizations like ISIS— but I have seen so much pain and tears over the years, that I genuinely don’t believe the IT guy will be in peace.
- therealx 8y ago
  It's been getting worse down there too. A buddy of mine works on the cell networks and hes been telling me that bodies are starting to be strung up on bridges even in tourist areas when people don't pay up or snitch. I'd go into more detail but at some point it's just gore.
  - CapricornNoble 8y ago
    For clarification, by "down there" are you referring to Mexico, or the US states along the border? If you mean Mexico itself, bodies being strung up on bridges in tourist areas is NOT a new phenomenon. Just dig through some of BestGore's archives from 2011-2014 if you have the stomach for it.
- pault 8y ago
  Exactly. Common methods of execution are putting a tire around your arms and chest and setting you on fire, and cooking you alive in a giant microwave. Just hearing about this stuff is enough to give you nightmares, and that's the whole point. There was an episode of The Americans where someone was killed with the tire method and even on TV it made me sick to my stomach and left me feeling disturbed for several hours.
  - davidw 8y ago
    As an aside... I feel pretty done with that kind of TV and movies. That shit is disturbing and I do not find it entertaining. The real world is messy and sad in a lot of ways, and I kind of want my entertainment to be a window into a nicer, neater world where the good guys are good, and vanquish the bad guys.
    - objektif 8y ago
      I never understood the appeal of violence in tv. Even some scenes in GOT I had very hard time watching.
    - brokenmachine 8y ago
      I agree, it's only appealing to our basest urges. Most of us don't get much violence in our normal lives so it's removed from the mundane and therefore somewhat interesting. It's amazing how much violence we witness on TV/movies when there is really so little in our actual lives. I get bored with the "neater world where the good guys are good, and vanquish the bad guys" stories, but there are still lots of interesting stories out there. I don't even watch the nightly news for the same reason, it's all rapes and stabbings which I could have done nothing to prevent. I am constantly thinking to myself, "why do I need to hear this?"
- pedro_hab 8y ago
  I don't think it's that easy to find someone in witness protection, unless there are some other sloppy programs in the US, you, sir, are incorrect. "More than 18,400 men, women and children have participated in it, and not one of the 8,500 witnesses or the 9,900 family members has been harmed" [1] Now his family idk, good luck to them. 1. https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/justice/witness-protection-program/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/justice/witness-protection-pr...
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  - Casseres 8y ago
    It seems like that statistic will be harder to keep as technology becomes more pervasive in our lives.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  That's North Korea's method too. If one person escapes, 3 generations of relatives go to prison camp. It's tough to take on that responsibility when you flee.
- atombender 8y ago
  Do you have a source? I don't think FBI's witness protection program has ever been penetrated. People who change their identity in order to disappear are ultimately found because they're sloppy. They miss their old life; they expose themselves make contact with friends and family. In some cases, they brag about their true identity while drunk. Henry Hill [1], of "Goodfellas" fame, managed to do it twice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill
- nyolfen 8y ago
  i’d be very interested in seeing an example of this or anything like it taking place in the US witness protection program.
- stale2002 8y ago
  You have been watching too many movies. It is perfectly possible for people to change their names, and move to a different part of the country, or whatever. The drug cartels do not have facial recognition cameras on ever street corner. They do not track people, with secret spy software, across continents. Thats ridiculous.

Good luck hiding from the most profitable black market corporation in the history of civilization.

Oh wow! I envy your ignorance. Mexican cartels are some of the worst organizations in the world. They don’t want to kill you, they want to make you suffer. They will kill his family, the family of his family, and maybe the whole neighborhood just to make him go crazy, and then —right at the end— they will kill him. If the IT guy was smart enough to hide all his family’s information, then maybe they are safe, but he is still in danger because the mafia will bride someone from the protection program to kill him, and I don’t mean “bride” with money, no, I mean bride them with their own life, because if the person from the protection program doesn’t gives them access to the IT guy, they will kill their family too. I am exaggerating a little bit, maybe I shouldn’t even write this considering that I’m spreading the fear, and that’s probably what they want —same as other organizations like ISIS— but I have seen so much pain and tears over the years, that I genuinely don’t believe the IT guy will be in peace.

therealx 8y ago
It's been getting worse down there too. A buddy of mine works on the cell networks and hes been telling me that bodies are starting to be strung up on bridges even in tourist areas when people don't pay up or snitch. I'd go into more detail but at some point it's just gore.
- CapricornNoble 8y ago
  For clarification, by "down there" are you referring to Mexico, or the US states along the border? If you mean Mexico itself, bodies being strung up on bridges in tourist areas is NOT a new phenomenon. Just dig through some of BestGore's archives from 2011-2014 if you have the stomach for it.
pault 8y ago
Exactly. Common methods of execution are putting a tire around your arms and chest and setting you on fire, and cooking you alive in a giant microwave. Just hearing about this stuff is enough to give you nightmares, and that's the whole point. There was an episode of The Americans where someone was killed with the tire method and even on TV it made me sick to my stomach and left me feeling disturbed for several hours.
- davidw 8y ago
  As an aside... I feel pretty done with that kind of TV and movies. That shit is disturbing and I do not find it entertaining. The real world is messy and sad in a lot of ways, and I kind of want my entertainment to be a window into a nicer, neater world where the good guys are good, and vanquish the bad guys.
  - objektif 8y ago
    I never understood the appeal of violence in tv. Even some scenes in GOT I had very hard time watching.
  - brokenmachine 8y ago
    I agree, it's only appealing to our basest urges. Most of us don't get much violence in our normal lives so it's removed from the mundane and therefore somewhat interesting. It's amazing how much violence we witness on TV/movies when there is really so little in our actual lives. I get bored with the "neater world where the good guys are good, and vanquish the bad guys" stories, but there are still lots of interesting stories out there. I don't even watch the nightly news for the same reason, it's all rapes and stabbings which I could have done nothing to prevent. I am constantly thinking to myself, "why do I need to hear this?"
pedro_hab 8y ago
I don't think it's that easy to find someone in witness protection, unless there are some other sloppy programs in the US, you, sir, are incorrect. "More than 18,400 men, women and children have participated in it, and not one of the 8,500 witnesses or the 9,900 family members has been harmed" [1] Now his family idk, good luck to them. 1. https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/justice/witness-protection-program/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/justice/witness-protection-pr...
- deleted 8y ago
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- Casseres 8y ago
  It seems like that statistic will be harder to keep as technology becomes more pervasive in our lives.
maxxxxx 8y ago
That's North Korea's method too. If one person escapes, 3 generations of relatives go to prison camp. It's tough to take on that responsibility when you flee.
atombender 8y ago
Do you have a source? I don't think FBI's witness protection program has ever been penetrated. People who change their identity in order to disappear are ultimately found because they're sloppy. They miss their old life; they expose themselves make contact with friends and family. In some cases, they brag about their true identity while drunk. Henry Hill [1], of "Goodfellas" fame, managed to do it twice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill
nyolfen 8y ago
i’d be very interested in seeing an example of this or anything like it taking place in the US witness protection program.
stale2002 8y ago
You have been watching too many movies. It is perfectly possible for people to change their names, and move to a different part of the country, or whatever. The drug cartels do not have facial recognition cameras on ever street corner. They do not track people, with secret spy software, across continents. Thats ridiculous.