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DuckDuckGo is not Bing, though they have some worrying connections to Bing/Yahoo. Interesting note, Bing's results are much more similar to Google's, with no me

DuckDuckGo is not Bing, though they have some worrying connections to Bing/Yahoo. Interesting note, Bing's results are much more similar to Google's, with no mention of what happened between Harris and Willie Brown. There's a whole industry built around manipulating search results, what you see is not simply an "artifacts of different search engine technology". There's a very biased, politicized, human element to all of this. The moment you create an "objective" search algorithm, people are going to reverse-engineer it and exploit it. Then results can be rigged simply by selective enforcement of the rules.

bduerst 8y ago
DuckDuckGo is a search aggregation of Bing, Yahoo, and Yandex. Yahoo has been Bing search for over a decade, so unless you're searching in Russian, it's Bing search results. I'm not sure if you even know who you're talking about, since you originally claimed the search engines were biased, but now you're accusing the SEO 'manipulators' of being the bad actors. Again, I think you're perceiving bias where you want it to exist, not where the evidence shows it existing.
- calibas 8y ago
  Both Alphabet and marketers are biased, I have no idea why it would have to be one or the other. A search engine fails to produce results about the biggest scandal of a politician's career, and I'm supposed to believe it's simply being objective and I'm the one being biased.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    So you at least understand now how DDG is Bing? Wikipedia lists her relationship as a footnote in her personal life, hardly the mountain you're making it out to be. Are you going to accuse Wikipedia of being biased too? You're free to set your own burden of proof and believe whatever you want to, but that doesn't necessarily make it fact.
    - calibas 8y ago
      No, if anything I'm more convinced they're different because they produce significantly different results when searching for "Kamala Harris". She slept with Willie Brown, who was already married, and then he helped her get a nice job. I guess if Wikipedia tells you it's not important, it's not important because Wikipedia is unbiased. Did read that on Wikipedia, does it tell you it's unbiased? I'm a writer for Wikipedia, by the way, and I'm biased. In fact every human being has biases.

bduerst 8y ago

DuckDuckGo is a search aggregation of Bing, Yahoo, and Yandex. Yahoo has been Bing search for over a decade, so unless you're searching in Russian, it's Bing search results. I'm not sure if you even know who you're talking about, since you originally claimed the search engines were biased, but now you're accusing the SEO 'manipulators' of being the bad actors. Again, I think you're perceiving bias where you want it to exist, not where the evidence shows it existing.

calibas 8y ago
Both Alphabet and marketers are biased, I have no idea why it would have to be one or the other. A search engine fails to produce results about the biggest scandal of a politician's career, and I'm supposed to believe it's simply being objective and I'm the one being biased.
- bduerst 8y ago
  So you at least understand now how DDG is Bing? Wikipedia lists her relationship as a footnote in her personal life, hardly the mountain you're making it out to be. Are you going to accuse Wikipedia of being biased too? You're free to set your own burden of proof and believe whatever you want to, but that doesn't necessarily make it fact.
  - calibas 8y ago
    No, if anything I'm more convinced they're different because they produce significantly different results when searching for "Kamala Harris". She slept with Willie Brown, who was already married, and then he helped her get a nice job. I guess if Wikipedia tells you it's not important, it's not important because Wikipedia is unbiased. Did read that on Wikipedia, does it tell you it's unbiased? I'm a writer for Wikipedia, by the way, and I'm biased. In fact every human being has biases.