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I want everyone's cars to follow the same rules, I don't want individual people modding their cars to obey only the laws they like or to behave differently than

I want everyone's cars to follow the same rules, I don't want individual people modding their cars to obey only the laws they like or to behave differently than everyone else's cars.

pdonis 8y ago
> I want everyone's cars to follow the same rules How would the rules be determined? > I don't want individual people modding their cars to obey only the laws they like or to behave differently than everyone else's cars. So basically, you don't trust the judgment of individual people. But you trust the judgment of a government that is composed of individual people?
- Johnny555 8y ago
  How would the rules be determined? USDOT/FHWA So basically, you don't trust the judgment of individual people. But you trust the judgment of a government that is composed of individual people? Yes.
  - pdonis 8y ago
    Ok, then I guess we'll just have to disagree.
    - Johnny555 8y ago
      yeah, I think it's the difference in opinion between those that see cars only as transportation, and those that see driving as an experience itself. I'm happy to give up control of driving if it means car travel is safer and more convenient, just like I'm happy to get on a train, bus, or airplane and let someone else drive (under high regulation - I don't want my pilot to decide on his own that ATC is being ridiculously conservative and there's plenty of room for him to land between two A380's).
- Spooky23 8y ago
  Sounds like you have a hard-on for the government. The federal government already regulates motor carriers, including inspections by federal and state regulatory bodies. They understand how to predict risk for vehicle operations, and can scale that assessment up to massive fleets like UPS or USPS or down to an individual vehicle operator. End of the day, individuals on average are awful at risk assessment and consistent behavior. To borrow another phrase, brakes are what allow cars to drive faster.

I want everyone's cars to follow the same rules, I don't want individual people modding their cars to obey only the laws they like or to behave differently than everyone else's cars.

pdonis 8y ago

> I want everyone's cars to follow the same rules How would the rules be determined? > I don't want individual people modding their cars to obey only the laws they like or to behave differently than everyone else's cars. So basically, you don't trust the judgment of individual people. But you trust the judgment of a government that is composed of individual people?

Johnny555 8y ago
How would the rules be determined? USDOT/FHWA So basically, you don't trust the judgment of individual people. But you trust the judgment of a government that is composed of individual people? Yes.
- pdonis 8y ago
  Ok, then I guess we'll just have to disagree.
  - Johnny555 8y ago
    yeah, I think it's the difference in opinion between those that see cars only as transportation, and those that see driving as an experience itself. I'm happy to give up control of driving if it means car travel is safer and more convenient, just like I'm happy to get on a train, bus, or airplane and let someone else drive (under high regulation - I don't want my pilot to decide on his own that ATC is being ridiculously conservative and there's plenty of room for him to land between two A380's).
Spooky23 8y ago
Sounds like you have a hard-on for the government. The federal government already regulates motor carriers, including inspections by federal and state regulatory bodies. They understand how to predict risk for vehicle operations, and can scale that assessment up to massive fleets like UPS or USPS or down to an individual vehicle operator. End of the day, individuals on average are awful at risk assessment and consistent behavior. To borrow another phrase, brakes are what allow cars to drive faster.