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What rube at the 9th circuit fell for the 'ol "of course we'll act in good faith" argument?? In the long run I think this kind of practice will only hurt Uber

What rube at the 9th circuit fell for the 'ol "of course we'll act in good faith" argument?? In the long run I think this kind of practice will only hurt Uber - they have huge issues with driver retention any way, and their dream of self driving cars is laughable. Lyft (who's only a little better, but still better) will continue to gain ground in the US especially and will eventually become the market leader in mobility.

derekp7 8y ago
They both have to worry about customers though. I'm afraid to take either Uber or Lyft, due to the fact my credit card may be randomly charged a $250 or more "damage fee". It is ridiculous that they just take the driver's word for it without something like dashcam evidence as proof.
- deminature 8y ago
  It's extremely uncommon to receive a damage fee, has to be substantiated with a photo and you can dispute it. Avoiding rideshare because of it is like refusing to go outside because you might be struck by lightning.
parthdesai 8y ago
>Lyft (who's only a little better, but still better) The same lyft and not Uber that is suing NYC to not pay minimum wage of $17.22? I'm not saying Uber is an angel, but neither is Lyft and at the end of the day both of them are businesses that'll look after themselves first.
- icebraining 8y ago
  Reading into that lawsuit, this seems like an oversimplification. Lyft is arguing against a particular formula that will be applied by TLC to calculate that wage based on the company's utilization rate, claiming it benefits Uber vs smaller companies. I think it's a fair argument if we don't want Uber to monopolize the whole market.
icebraining 8y ago
IANAL, but I don't think the Ninth Circuit was deciding whether Uber would act in good faith or not; just whether arbitration clauses where unconscionable or not. And they aren't, since the SCOTUS decision on Epic Systems v. Lewis.
tgsovlerkhgsel 8y ago
More importantly, could the judge in front of whom the statement was made hold them in contempt? Preferably directly the person who said it, not the company?

derekp7 8y ago

They both have to worry about customers though. I'm afraid to take either Uber or Lyft, due to the fact my credit card may be randomly charged a $250 or more "damage fee". It is ridiculous that they just take the driver's word for it without something like dashcam evidence as proof.

deminature 8y ago
It's extremely uncommon to receive a damage fee, has to be substantiated with a photo and you can dispute it. Avoiding rideshare because of it is like refusing to go outside because you might be struck by lightning.

parthdesai 8y ago

>Lyft (who's only a little better, but still better) The same lyft and not Uber that is suing NYC to not pay minimum wage of $17.22? I'm not saying Uber is an angel, but neither is Lyft and at the end of the day both of them are businesses that'll look after themselves first.

icebraining 8y ago
Reading into that lawsuit, this seems like an oversimplification. Lyft is arguing against a particular formula that will be applied by TLC to calculate that wage based on the company's utilization rate, claiming it benefits Uber vs smaller companies. I think it's a fair argument if we don't want Uber to monopolize the whole market.

icebraining 8y ago

IANAL, but I don't think the Ninth Circuit was deciding whether Uber would act in good faith or not; just whether arbitration clauses where unconscionable or not. And they aren't, since the SCOTUS decision on Epic Systems v. Lewis.

tgsovlerkhgsel 8y ago

More importantly, could the judge in front of whom the statement was made hold them in contempt? Preferably directly the person who said it, not the company?