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Taiwan (officially the Republic of China) don't agree that Taiwan is a real country either. The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of Chi

Taiwan (officially the Republic of China) don't agree that Taiwan is a real country either. The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. "Admitting" Taiwan is a "real country" seems kind of sensible, but it's not compatible with the narrative of either the PRC or the ROC, and it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim.

thaumasiotes 8y ago
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. > it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim. I've heard more ridiculous claims. As a matter of history, this is completely correct. It's just that the rebels have really entrenched themselves. This position is fundamentally identical to the position of a king-in-exile. Sometimes they made it back home. Sometimes they didn't.
- Markoff 8y ago
  except they are not technically in exile, they are just in different province of same country
dis-sys 8y ago
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. According to the same government in Taiwan, Mongolia is not an independent country, it is a part of "the Republic of China". See its official map here [1]. [1] http://www.chinayouth.org.hk/China/rocmap.html http://www.chinayouth.org.hk/China/rocmap.html
ddeck 8y ago
It is indeed a somewhat ridiculous claim, but domestic constitutional restrictions aside, the enactment of the Anti-Secession Law in the PRC in 2005 has made it challenging for the ROC to claim that they are instead an independent country. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law
ardy42 8y ago
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. I don't think that's the sincerely held position of Taiwan anymore. However, maintaining it is part of their current détente with the PRC: it has threatened to attack Taiwan if it renounces it's claim to the rest of China (which would be a de-facto declaration of independence).

thaumasiotes 8y ago

> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. > it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim. I've heard more ridiculous claims. As a matter of history, this is completely correct. It's just that the rebels have really entrenched themselves. This position is fundamentally identical to the position of a king-in-exile. Sometimes they made it back home. Sometimes they didn't.

Markoff 8y ago
except they are not technically in exile, they are just in different province of same country

dis-sys 8y ago

> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. According to the same government in Taiwan, Mongolia is not an independent country, it is a part of "the Republic of China". See its official map here [1]. [1] http://www.chinayouth.org.hk/China/rocmap.html http://www.chinayouth.org.hk/China/rocmap.html

ddeck 8y ago

It is indeed a somewhat ridiculous claim, but domestic constitutional restrictions aside, the enactment of the Anti-Secession Law in the PRC in 2005 has made it challenging for the ROC to claim that they are instead an independent country. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law

ardy42 8y ago

> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels. I don't think that's the sincerely held position of Taiwan anymore. However, maintaining it is part of their current détente with the PRC: it has threatened to attack Taiwan if it renounces it's claim to the rest of China (which would be a de-facto declaration of independence).