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I think the parent poster’s point is that that’s a very western perspective of morality. Imagine if the tables were turned, and the apprent promiscuity promote

I think the parent poster’s point is that that’s a very western perspective of morality. Imagine if the tables were turned, and the apprent promiscuity promoted by apps like Tinder was deemed immoral by a country that’s more conservative. Should that app be pulled globally as a result? To them the fact that we allow so much casually dating could be (and in middle eastern cultures often is) viewed as “wrong”.

mk89 8y ago
I understand completely the parent's point of view, because I am confronted with hundreds of people like that on a daily basis. To be honest? I am tired of justifying insanity, despite the legal point of view, and despite the fact that tables are not turned. I am not a lawyer and I am not sitting at a round table, and I have opinions. And my opinion is that due to this "oh, by law, or by religion" we are throwing away every sort of freedom and respect our parents and grandparents fought so hard so that we could today give them for granted. Tell me one woman in this world that likes to be treated less than a car to rent (take a look at the website, you even have to justify where to go and for how long. Basically with car2go a car is treated with more respect than a human being). But as someone might argue, it's not up to me to judge. Thankfully I live in a country that treats everyone with respect.
- londons_explore 8y ago
  When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. At some point in the future, people will look back at this time and consider it immoral that companies could rent people by the hour. Likewise, people in many non-western cultures do not have any issue with having a guardian 'look after' you, in return for a payment to your family. If the people don't see an issue with it, why should some foreign company come in and decide to ban it?
  - mk89 8y ago
    Sorry, I miss completely the point. > At some point in the future Morality changes, opinions too, and laws too. What then? Should we legalize pedophiles so that we can claim we are an open society and future-proof? > When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. That's work, that's life - if that goes against human rights, yes, I agree, I wish I was rich without doing s*. :)
  - Krasnol 8y ago
    > When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. Yeah, you can quit whenever you want. It's not like you were born into your company and have no other choice but to go there every day of your life.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  > Thankfully I live in a country that treats everyone with respect. I'm intrigued as to which country this is... How are immigrants treated in your country? People working minimum wage jobs? Transsexuals?
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glangdale 8y ago
Well, I guess that we won't get to use all that great Saudi tech then. What a shame. In the end it comes down to the fact that Western countries have the app stores. Enthusiasts for various middle-brow airport Big Ideas books can probably advance about a million different theories (many even plausible) that explain why these companies wind up being from California and not Saudi Arabia or Uganda. As far as I'm concerned, if you're busy promulgating the morals of Saudi Arabia, while ensconced comfortably in California, you've got it coming when your friends and neighbours start pissing on your shoes. Tech companies make decisions all the time about apps that go well beyond the strict letter of the law in countries in which they operate (Exhibit A: adult content).

mk89 8y ago

I understand completely the parent's point of view, because I am confronted with hundreds of people like that on a daily basis. To be honest? I am tired of justifying insanity, despite the legal point of view, and despite the fact that tables are not turned. I am not a lawyer and I am not sitting at a round table, and I have opinions. And my opinion is that due to this "oh, by law, or by religion" we are throwing away every sort of freedom and respect our parents and grandparents fought so hard so that we could today give them for granted. Tell me one woman in this world that likes to be treated less than a car to rent (take a look at the website, you even have to justify where to go and for how long. Basically with car2go a car is treated with more respect than a human being). But as someone might argue, it's not up to me to judge. Thankfully I live in a country that treats everyone with respect.

londons_explore 8y ago
When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. At some point in the future, people will look back at this time and consider it immoral that companies could rent people by the hour. Likewise, people in many non-western cultures do not have any issue with having a guardian 'look after' you, in return for a payment to your family. If the people don't see an issue with it, why should some foreign company come in and decide to ban it?
- mk89 8y ago
  Sorry, I miss completely the point. > At some point in the future Morality changes, opinions too, and laws too. What then? Should we legalize pedophiles so that we can claim we are an open society and future-proof? > When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. That's work, that's life - if that goes against human rights, yes, I agree, I wish I was rich without doing s*. :)
- Krasnol 8y ago
  > When you are employed by a company, you are treated 'like a car to rent', yet nobody seems to have an issue with it. Yeah, you can quit whenever you want. It's not like you were born into your company and have no other choice but to go there every day of your life.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
> Thankfully I live in a country that treats everyone with respect. I'm intrigued as to which country this is... How are immigrants treated in your country? People working minimum wage jobs? Transsexuals?

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glangdale 8y ago

Well, I guess that we won't get to use all that great Saudi tech then. What a shame. In the end it comes down to the fact that Western countries have the app stores. Enthusiasts for various middle-brow airport Big Ideas books can probably advance about a million different theories (many even plausible) that explain why these companies wind up being from California and not Saudi Arabia or Uganda. As far as I'm concerned, if you're busy promulgating the morals of Saudi Arabia, while ensconced comfortably in California, you've got it coming when your friends and neighbours start pissing on your shoes. Tech companies make decisions all the time about apps that go well beyond the strict letter of the law in countries in which they operate (Exhibit A: adult content).