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This is a cliche that gets wheeled out regularly but without much critical thought. Google cancels stuff. A lot? Maybe but they have a lot of products. But it

This is a cliche that gets wheeled out regularly but without much critical thought. Google cancels stuff. A lot? Maybe but they have a lot of products. But it's not without logic and it's much less likely to effect paid products and core services. How many parts of Docs/Drive have been cancelled? How many GCP components? Next time someone is about to post another "Google cancels everything!" comment I hope they might pause and think whether it's plausible in this specific case. (And maybe pause to consider whether they are adding anything new to the debate or just repeating the same point that's been made a thousand times previously)

dbdjfjrjvebd 8y ago
Hangouts. But chat and the new video solution are a fairly seamless transition. So seemless that I've used the new video call solution for months and not noticed its name yet.
jeffFrom18F 8y ago
Google Inbox? I'm a paying user of corporate Gmail/GSuite and this is a pending disaster for me. They keep asserting that the "new improved" Gmail offers all the needed functionality but it simply does not.
- stupidcar 8y ago
  Can you be more specific about what's missing that will be a disaster?
  - bluesroo 8y ago
    Things that are missing: 1. A group of pinned emails in one place. I can star things, and they end up in "Primary". But if I then go to the "Promotions" or "Updates" folder and select all -> archive the starred items get picked up too. 2. Same complaint as above, but for "Important" emails. Except "Important" emails aren't moved into "Primary", they are ALL left in their regular boxes. 3. Does not have an endless scroll of emails. I need to click back and forth between pages to see them all. Select all only selects my current page of emails. 4. If I choose priority inbox I lose the ability to select all documents in a given inbox. The above are fixed with priority inbox, but then I can't select all. I switch back and forth once a week because I'm honestly not sure which features are more painful to live without. If I could have a separate box for important/ starred and display ALL of my unarchived emails on the screen I'd be happy. Inbox taught me to make heavy use of archive and keeping an empty inbox except for what's essential... And then they provided no tools for continuing to use it this way.
BillinghamJ 8y ago
The issue is that Google's interests are very often not aligned with their customers'/users' interests. They regularly choose to shut things down for reasons which probably make plenty of sense to Google, but which are unjustifiable from the users' perspectives.
coldtea 8y ago
>This is a cliche that gets wheeled out regularly but without much critical thought. Google cancels stuff. A lot? Maybe but they have a lot of products. As a consumer of several of those products, I could not give less ducks what their problem is. That's an excuse for a Google PM to say to themselves. Google's cancelling of products hurts me, and presumably others, and I wont trust it with business critical tasks when there's Amazon and Microsoft that have a much better developer record.

dbdjfjrjvebd 8y ago

Hangouts. But chat and the new video solution are a fairly seamless transition. So seemless that I've used the new video call solution for months and not noticed its name yet.

jeffFrom18F 8y ago

Google Inbox? I'm a paying user of corporate Gmail/GSuite and this is a pending disaster for me. They keep asserting that the "new improved" Gmail offers all the needed functionality but it simply does not.

stupidcar 8y ago
Can you be more specific about what's missing that will be a disaster?
- bluesroo 8y ago
  Things that are missing: 1. A group of pinned emails in one place. I can star things, and they end up in "Primary". But if I then go to the "Promotions" or "Updates" folder and select all -> archive the starred items get picked up too. 2. Same complaint as above, but for "Important" emails. Except "Important" emails aren't moved into "Primary", they are ALL left in their regular boxes. 3. Does not have an endless scroll of emails. I need to click back and forth between pages to see them all. Select all only selects my current page of emails. 4. If I choose priority inbox I lose the ability to select all documents in a given inbox. The above are fixed with priority inbox, but then I can't select all. I switch back and forth once a week because I'm honestly not sure which features are more painful to live without. If I could have a separate box for important/ starred and display ALL of my unarchived emails on the screen I'd be happy. Inbox taught me to make heavy use of archive and keeping an empty inbox except for what's essential... And then they provided no tools for continuing to use it this way.

BillinghamJ 8y ago

The issue is that Google's interests are very often not aligned with their customers'/users' interests. They regularly choose to shut things down for reasons which probably make plenty of sense to Google, but which are unjustifiable from the users' perspectives.

coldtea 8y ago

>This is a cliche that gets wheeled out regularly but without much critical thought. Google cancels stuff. A lot? Maybe but they have a lot of products. As a consumer of several of those products, I could not give less ducks what their problem is. That's an excuse for a Google PM to say to themselves. Google's cancelling of products hurts me, and presumably others, and I wont trust it with business critical tasks when there's Amazon and Microsoft that have a much better developer record.