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Disqus - After 5 Days on Disqus, I’m Turning Back to Wordpress Comments

29 points by berecruited 18y ago

berecruited 18y ago
I'd actually love to install Hacker News style comments... You?
- bigtoga 18y ago
  I like threaded comment systems and I prefer digg/reddit since I can collapse them. Really though - how hard could it be? Any capable hacker could write the system to do such a thing in less than a day I would guess.
- superkarn 18y ago
  I like Hacker News comment system (though presentation could be better). I like the fact that you see the most relevant comments first. Whereas most other comment systems (even those with points) are chronological. ps Digg just updated their comment system.
danielha 18y ago
Hey Ryan, I responded to your comment here: http://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/15/disqus-after-5-days-on-disqus-im-turning-back-to-wordpress-comments/#comment-2662 http://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/15/disqus-after-5-days-on-...
- srini 18y ago
  This doesn't answer Ryan's key complaint though: that disqus sucks up all the SEO from blog comments on blogs that use it.
  - bigtoga 18y ago
    I think it's clear that they know that - it was the point of Ryan's post - but have chosen to not address it. As I see it, there is no good that can come (for them) from admitting this "feature". If they say, "Yes, it's a problem but..." then people will latch onto that. If they say, "It's not a problem though!" then people will ballyhoo them. If they ignore it though maybe the commenters will go away...
nickb 18y ago
Are threaded comments the killer feature of Disqus? I've never written a comment system myself but I don't think it's hard to hack it into an open source blog soft like WordPress. For hosted solutions like Blogger Disqus is awesome since you don't have to wait on Google to finally update it (and it looks like Google has abandoned Blogger).
berecruited 18y ago
From the comments on the blog post - here is a threaded wordpress comment plugin: http://code.google.com/p/briansthreadedcomments/ http://code.google.com/p/briansthreadedcomments/
Jasber 18y ago
I'm wrestling with this same problem. Killer Disqus Features: * Ability to reply to a comment via e-mail (awesome!) * Automatic notification when a reply is made to your comment * Rating comments * Threaded Deal Breakers: * Done completely in Javascript. Sure this sucks for SEO, but for usability this just isn't acceptable. Users without Javascript don't see comments? I'm not OK with that. * Comments hosted off site: I'm not hosting the comments. This may not seem like a big issue but it is. Disqus looks great and I'll try it in the future if they ever get these problems ironed out. In the meantime I am satisfied using WordPress plugins (or making my own) to get disqus-like comments working.
- pchristensen 18y ago
  "I'm not hosting the comments" This is my main reason for not using Disqus. I don't want to lose comments is Disqus folds or gets bought by someone evil, I want easy and complete backups and restores, etc. Right now, my blog is my biggest time investment outside of my kids, and I'm leery of losing some control.
  - kirubakaran 18y ago
    Your kids will turn 18 soon ;)
    - pchristensen 18y ago
      Yeah, only 17 yrs, 11 months left for the younger one :)
- joshwa 18y ago
  Hey Disqus-- what if you released a Wordpress plugin version of Disqus that used, say, web services to pull the content from disqus and serve it directly from the blog host? Solves the SEO problem and the JS problem. For the "data security" problem, you could store a local copy of all the comments at the blog hosts, and a migration tool to port them back to wordpress native comments if someone leaves the service.

29 points by berecruited 18y ago

berecruited 18y ago

I'd actually love to install Hacker News style comments... You?

bigtoga 18y ago
I like threaded comment systems and I prefer digg/reddit since I can collapse them. Really though - how hard could it be? Any capable hacker could write the system to do such a thing in less than a day I would guess.
superkarn 18y ago
I like Hacker News comment system (though presentation could be better). I like the fact that you see the most relevant comments first. Whereas most other comment systems (even those with points) are chronological. ps Digg just updated their comment system.

danielha 18y ago

Hey Ryan, I responded to your comment here: http://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/15/disqus-after-5-days-on-disqus-im-turning-back-to-wordpress-comments/#comment-2662 http://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/15/disqus-after-5-days-on-...

srini 18y ago
This doesn't answer Ryan's key complaint though: that disqus sucks up all the SEO from blog comments on blogs that use it.
- bigtoga 18y ago
  I think it's clear that they know that - it was the point of Ryan's post - but have chosen to not address it. As I see it, there is no good that can come (for them) from admitting this "feature". If they say, "Yes, it's a problem but..." then people will latch onto that. If they say, "It's not a problem though!" then people will ballyhoo them. If they ignore it though maybe the commenters will go away...

nickb 18y ago

Are threaded comments the killer feature of Disqus? I've never written a comment system myself but I don't think it's hard to hack it into an open source blog soft like WordPress. For hosted solutions like Blogger Disqus is awesome since you don't have to wait on Google to finally update it (and it looks like Google has abandoned Blogger).

berecruited 18y ago

From the comments on the blog post - here is a threaded wordpress comment plugin: http://code.google.com/p/briansthreadedcomments/ http://code.google.com/p/briansthreadedcomments/

Jasber 18y ago

I'm wrestling with this same problem. Killer Disqus Features: * Ability to reply to a comment via e-mail (awesome!) * Automatic notification when a reply is made to your comment * Rating comments * Threaded Deal Breakers: * Done completely in Javascript. Sure this sucks for SEO, but for usability this just isn't acceptable. Users without Javascript don't see comments? I'm not OK with that. * Comments hosted off site: I'm not hosting the comments. This may not seem like a big issue but it is. Disqus looks great and I'll try it in the future if they ever get these problems ironed out. In the meantime I am satisfied using WordPress plugins (or making my own) to get disqus-like comments working.

pchristensen 18y ago
"I'm not hosting the comments" This is my main reason for not using Disqus. I don't want to lose comments is Disqus folds or gets bought by someone evil, I want easy and complete backups and restores, etc. Right now, my blog is my biggest time investment outside of my kids, and I'm leery of losing some control.
- kirubakaran 18y ago
  Your kids will turn 18 soon ;)
  - pchristensen 18y ago
    Yeah, only 17 yrs, 11 months left for the younger one :)
joshwa 18y ago
Hey Disqus-- what if you released a Wordpress plugin version of Disqus that used, say, web services to pull the content from disqus and serve it directly from the blog host? Solves the SEO problem and the JS problem. For the "data security" problem, you could store a local copy of all the comments at the blog hosts, and a migration tool to port them back to wordpress native comments if someone leaves the service.