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As someone who used to religiously watched, this is just another reason why I'm glad I stopped watching the NFL several years ago. Between the awful viewing ex

As someone who used to religiously watched, this is just another reason why I'm glad I stopped watching the NFL several years ago. Between the awful viewing experience with annoying commercials, cliche talking heads, concussion cover ups, highly questionable refs, rampant cheating, the kneeing debacle, etc. I'm surprised more folks my age haven't bailed on the NFL.

astura 8y ago
I don't follow football, can you elaborate on "rampant cheating?" Are you talking about deflategate? Or is there more cheating controversies I'm not aware of? EDIT: Yeesh! I didn't know how much of an issue PEDs are in the NFL.
- sjg007 8y ago
  There are a lot of "missed" calls basically and some that are invented. Pass interference is the big one that can change momentum.
  - favorited 8y ago
    But is there any evidence that debatable calls (or no-calls) are cheating? Or is it just human error, compounded by the facts that (A) the rules are too complicated, (B) not everything is reviewable, and (C) officials aren't full-time NFL employees?
- wnevets 8y ago
  deflategate, peds, spygate, etc https://yourteamcheats.com https://yourteamcheats.com is a decent collection.
- bseidensticker 8y ago
  This site compiles all cheating violations: https://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/ https://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/
  - cwbrandsma 8y ago
    No one is going to believe that chart as long as New England isn't listed as #1. </snark>
- wcarron 8y ago
  Probably the rampant PEDs. The NFL is worse than professional cycling these days. Even before Lance, the UCI/WADA implemented among the toughest, if not the toughest, doping control schemes in sports. The Bio Passport, automatic urine tests of winners and podium placers for each race. Random in-event controls, random out-of-competition tests, etc. Riders are required to report their whereabouts so that they can be randomly tested over a dozen times per year, wherever they may be. Multi-year suspensions for anyone testing positive and losing the appeal, to start. 4 year ban, I believe, on 2nd positive. Compare that the NFL's pathetic drug policy, where players aren't even tested for recreational drugs during the season. And only a few-game suspension for getting caught.
  - wnevets 8y ago
    And on top of that if you get caught cheating with PEDs you still get to play in the playoffs and super bowl. At least in the MLB if you get caught with PEDs you can't play in the postseason that year. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy#Discipline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_pol...
  - burger_moon 8y ago
    Does anyone think the NFL could exist as it does without PEDs?
  - doggydogs94 8y ago
    I do not care if players use performance degrading recreational drugs.
- favorited 8y ago
  Players are constantly getting suspended for violating the league's PED rules, and they're not always punished equitably. As a more extreme example, there was HGH shipped to Peyton Manning's house, and the league seemed to sweep it under the rug (he claimed it was for his wife). This was around the time he had just won the Super Bowl and retired.
jMyles 8y ago
I'd like to be able to easily support the kneelers without regard to a decision to watch or not watch the NFL.
- doggydogs94 8y ago
  That is easy. Go to https://www.usresistnews.org/profiles/colin-kaepernick-foundation/ https://www.usresistnews.org/profiles/colin-kaepernick-found... and donate.

astura 8y ago

I don't follow football, can you elaborate on "rampant cheating?" Are you talking about deflategate? Or is there more cheating controversies I'm not aware of? EDIT: Yeesh! I didn't know how much of an issue PEDs are in the NFL.

sjg007 8y ago
There are a lot of "missed" calls basically and some that are invented. Pass interference is the big one that can change momentum.
- favorited 8y ago
  But is there any evidence that debatable calls (or no-calls) are cheating? Or is it just human error, compounded by the facts that (A) the rules are too complicated, (B) not everything is reviewable, and (C) officials aren't full-time NFL employees?
wnevets 8y ago
deflategate, peds, spygate, etc https://yourteamcheats.com https://yourteamcheats.com is a decent collection.
bseidensticker 8y ago
This site compiles all cheating violations: https://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/ https://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/
- cwbrandsma 8y ago
  No one is going to believe that chart as long as New England isn't listed as #1. </snark>
wcarron 8y ago
Probably the rampant PEDs. The NFL is worse than professional cycling these days. Even before Lance, the UCI/WADA implemented among the toughest, if not the toughest, doping control schemes in sports. The Bio Passport, automatic urine tests of winners and podium placers for each race. Random in-event controls, random out-of-competition tests, etc. Riders are required to report their whereabouts so that they can be randomly tested over a dozen times per year, wherever they may be. Multi-year suspensions for anyone testing positive and losing the appeal, to start. 4 year ban, I believe, on 2nd positive. Compare that the NFL's pathetic drug policy, where players aren't even tested for recreational drugs during the season. And only a few-game suspension for getting caught.
- wnevets 8y ago
  And on top of that if you get caught cheating with PEDs you still get to play in the playoffs and super bowl. At least in the MLB if you get caught with PEDs you can't play in the postseason that year. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy#Discipline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_pol...
- burger_moon 8y ago
  Does anyone think the NFL could exist as it does without PEDs?
- doggydogs94 8y ago
  I do not care if players use performance degrading recreational drugs.
favorited 8y ago
Players are constantly getting suspended for violating the league's PED rules, and they're not always punished equitably. As a more extreme example, there was HGH shipped to Peyton Manning's house, and the league seemed to sweep it under the rug (he claimed it was for his wife). This was around the time he had just won the Super Bowl and retired.

jMyles 8y ago

I'd like to be able to easily support the kneelers without regard to a decision to watch or not watch the NFL.

doggydogs94 8y ago
That is easy. Go to https://www.usresistnews.org/profiles/colin-kaepernick-foundation/ https://www.usresistnews.org/profiles/colin-kaepernick-found... and donate.