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That's a little bit unfortunate, as I think that the topic could be explored much, much deeper. For example, are there any social considerations when it comes t

That's a little bit unfortunate, as I think that the topic could be explored much, much deeper. For example, are there any social considerations when it comes to not sharing these details? Will you be ostracized or seen as weird by your friends, will you maybe even trigger automated alarm systems because your behaviour is seen as fraudulent, etc. (at least the last part is alluded to, but it comes through yet another link; if I want to follow many links, I go browse Wikipedia, not an article that purports to be a long-form essay about an interesting topic)

wizardforhire 8y ago
Off the cuff here, being seen as weird is a social construct. Making personal desicions with confidence inspires confidence in others. If “friends” see your actions as weird and you’ve made your decisions with thought and deliberation then you are faced with the question, are these people really your friends? In the case of privacy we share a situation where society is being normalized to make decisions that is not in the best interest of individuals writ large but instead favors the bottom line and profits of a few corporations that could not care less if we live or die. Actions being seen as fraudulent is just an enforcement mechanism to protect these motives. Opinions are changed one individual at a time, but as opinions change so to does society. As someone who is deeply appalled by the current state of affairs, I encourage anyone who feels the same to stay strong. These corporate culprits of societal rot are just one mass migration away from folding. It’s happened before and it will happen again. We on hacker news are the ones leading the charge.
frereubu 8y ago
This is definitely the more interesting article referred to in terms of social consequences: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.... Edit: Had a bit of whiplash when I realised that this article was from seven years ago. How far we've come.

wizardforhire 8y ago

Off the cuff here, being seen as weird is a social construct. Making personal desicions with confidence inspires confidence in others. If “friends” see your actions as weird and you’ve made your decisions with thought and deliberation then you are faced with the question, are these people really your friends? In the case of privacy we share a situation where society is being normalized to make decisions that is not in the best interest of individuals writ large but instead favors the bottom line and profits of a few corporations that could not care less if we live or die. Actions being seen as fraudulent is just an enforcement mechanism to protect these motives. Opinions are changed one individual at a time, but as opinions change so to does society. As someone who is deeply appalled by the current state of affairs, I encourage anyone who feels the same to stay strong. These corporate culprits of societal rot are just one mass migration away from folding. It’s happened before and it will happen again. We on hacker news are the ones leading the charge.

frereubu 8y ago

This is definitely the more interesting article referred to in terms of social consequences: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.... Edit: Had a bit of whiplash when I realised that this article was from seven years ago. How far we've come.