But my point is - you're still templating. The only thing you're gaining is using the same language on the client and the server. I'm not saying that's a small

But my point is - you're still templating. The only thing you're gaining is using the same language on the client and the server. I'm not saying that's a small thing, but the OP could have achieved the same using parenscript. The GP seemed to be implying that we should only generate our HTML programatically on the client. Thinking about it more, I don't agree with this. I don't write webapps these days, but in our platform we do a lot of code generation. We use a programmatic method to do this because we have to manipulate the intermediate representation a lot - add or remove fields added by earlier phases in the generation etc. This is much more flexible but it's much harder to maintain, and looking at the code generation code it's very hard to see what the end result will be. If we were simply generating code in a single pass I'd definitely use templating, it's just much simpler, easier to develop, and easier to see what the end result will be. Add in the need with HTML to work with designers and I think templating will be with us for some time to come.