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Do we really need to defend SPA every other week? The market, users, product, ui/ux designers and the vast majority of developers decided that SPA is a better u

Do we really need to defend SPA every other week? The market, users, product, ui/ux designers and the vast majority of developers decided that SPA is a better user experience. Page loads greatly degrade the user experience, especially when you have long lag (which for many of us the reoundabout time is longer then the download time of 100k). Even if you make your site extremely lean, it's still a worse experience, and let not forget that for the majority of sites lean is far beyond them (not the least because you must integrate third party code such as social and analytics or fade into obscurity against those who do) So some developers feel that the old way of doing things is just fine. There are always some of those. Probably the same ones who surf the web with js disabled. This is not even remotely what the average person expects and anyone who thinks they can build a website like that and compete are delusional (and hacker news is perhaps the exception that proves the rule. Even google is not html only anymore)

zerotolerance 8y ago
Craigslist and Amazon don't compete?
jermaustin1 8y ago
>the same ones who surf the web with js disabled. I used a lot of applications out there that aren't SPAs, I browse with JS turned on, and I believe that SPAs are nice in certain use cases, but for a large portion of web applications, you are primarily doing simple CRUD work, and don't need an SPA for that.
whytaka 8y ago
The phrase, "the exception that proves the rule" is not used properly here. A proper example is something like: "Parking allowed on Fridays", which is an exceptional case to a rule that is implied: "No parking any other days." Just a heads up, feel free to ignore.
- Illniyar 8y ago
  Properly is a very loose term. It is common in speech and literature to use it to mean "an exception so rare that by virtue of it's rarity it strengthens the general rule". If we are going by wikipedia definitions, then: "A rural village is "always" quiet. A local farmer rents his fields to a rock festival, which disturbs the quiet. In this example, saying "the exception proves the rule" is literally incorrect, but it is used to draw attention to the rarity of the exception, and to establish the status of the village prior to the exceptional event. "

zerotolerance 8y ago

Craigslist and Amazon don't compete?

jermaustin1 8y ago

>the same ones who surf the web with js disabled. I used a lot of applications out there that aren't SPAs, I browse with JS turned on, and I believe that SPAs are nice in certain use cases, but for a large portion of web applications, you are primarily doing simple CRUD work, and don't need an SPA for that.

whytaka 8y ago

The phrase, "the exception that proves the rule" is not used properly here. A proper example is something like: "Parking allowed on Fridays", which is an exceptional case to a rule that is implied: "No parking any other days." Just a heads up, feel free to ignore.

Illniyar 8y ago
Properly is a very loose term. It is common in speech and literature to use it to mean "an exception so rare that by virtue of it's rarity it strengthens the general rule". If we are going by wikipedia definitions, then: "A rural village is "always" quiet. A local farmer rents his fields to a rock festival, which disturbs the quiet. In this example, saying "the exception proves the rule" is literally incorrect, but it is used to draw attention to the rarity of the exception, and to establish the status of the village prior to the exceptional event. "