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Do you have a donate link ? Would love to contribute. Usually your donate links are mentioned on your blogspot and more than one person has told me that they a

Do you have a donate link ? Would love to contribute. Usually your donate links are mentioned on your blogspot and more than one person has told me that they are not sure this blogspot is authentic. Do look into having a single static website with a blog - using something like Pelican (http://www.pelicanthemes.com http://www.pelicanthemes.com)

llukas 8y ago
Click donate here: http://pypy.org/ http://pypy.org/
eesmith 8y ago
Why does it matter if this blogspot is authentic? The "Donation page" link is to http://pypy.org/py3donate.html http://pypy.org/py3donate.html which is hosted under pypy.org. The blog could be written by Trafalmadorian trolls, and it wouldn't matter - so long as you trusted that "pypy.org" was part of the PyPy project and that its connection to PayPal was valid. I don't think your last comment is relevant. What I think you are saying is that the blog should be hosted under pypy.org and not blogspot. It could be WordPress or any other system. It couldn't easily be Pelican because the blog supports comments, which means integrating with some other commenting system - plus authentication and spam detection. Why not get rid of the hassle of manually adding files and rebuilding the server and just use blogspot? Lastly, are you really saying that people aren't donating to PyPy because some supportive blog site somewhere else, run by who knows who, isn't hosted on pypy.org?
- sandGorgon 8y ago
  yeah - because people dont go to the homepage. what gets tweeted out is this blogspot page (including here on HN). So people check out the nice blog post and see a donate link on the left of https://morepypy.blogspot.com/ https://morepypy.blogspot.com/ and then go ...hmm, looks shady. Not many read the blog post, then go to Google, search for pypy and then click the link and then donate. Fundraising is not an easy process - there is an aspect of sales here. Blogspot may be easy.. but its not good branding. And that was my point - cos I want them to succeed.
  - eesmith 8y ago
    Please explain how it looks shady, because I don't understand it. If I start a blog - completely independent of PyPy - which promotes PyPy and describes the development efforts, and I want to encourage people to support the PyPy project, then I might link to the PyPy donation page, yes? Yet, because I'm not affiliated with the project, I can't put the blog under pypy.org. Would my blog also be shady? If so, doesn't that mean that no one should promote donating to a project unless that promotion is done under the project's domain? You write "Not many read the blog post, then go to Google, search for pypy and then click the link and then donate." That would be true even if the blog post were hosted under pypy.org. That is, why would anyone donate after reading one blog post? I would think that more people would donate after they download PyPy, try it out, and see that it's worthwhile enough to fund. In that case, they've already found out how to get PyPy, so there's no need to "Google, search for pypy" because they've already done that. Nor is PyPy unusual in this respect. It's hard to find projects which have both a blog and a donate page. Of the 50 so projects I looked at, the following are "shady" according to your definition: - the PSF blog (hosted on blogspot) links to the python.org page for donations, eg, https://pyfound.blogspot.com/search?q=donate https://pyfound.blogspot.com/search?q=donate . - The Thunderbird blog has a posting like https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2018/08/whats-new-in-thunderbird-60/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2018/08/whats-new-in-th... linking to https://donate.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ https://donate.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ while the main Thunderbird page is at https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ while: - Orange, with a blog at https://blog.biolab.si/ https://blog.biolab.si/ is a sibling subdomain to the main project site at https://orange.biolab.si/ https://orange.biolab.si/ , making it ... semi-shady? I mean, how are we to know that "biolab.si" is not some sort of large ISP where any of their customers can make a subdomain? I did find a two places where the "donate" and "blog" pages were hosted on the same domain: http://rssbandit.org/ http://rssbandit.org/ (which links to a SourceForce page which redirects to PayPal) and http://sagerss.com/ http://sagerss.com/ . To summarize, I don't see why it's shady, your view seems to mean that no one should promote donating to a project except for the project itself, static site generation tools don't seem to be a good fit for blog support, and it doesn't seem like the effort to change to a single domain would have a worthwhile effect on improving the donation rate.

llukas 8y ago

Click donate here: http://pypy.org/ http://pypy.org/

eesmith 8y ago

Why does it matter if this blogspot is authentic? The "Donation page" link is to http://pypy.org/py3donate.html http://pypy.org/py3donate.html which is hosted under pypy.org. The blog could be written by Trafalmadorian trolls, and it wouldn't matter - so long as you trusted that "pypy.org" was part of the PyPy project and that its connection to PayPal was valid. I don't think your last comment is relevant. What I think you are saying is that the blog should be hosted under pypy.org and not blogspot. It could be WordPress or any other system. It couldn't easily be Pelican because the blog supports comments, which means integrating with some other commenting system - plus authentication and spam detection. Why not get rid of the hassle of manually adding files and rebuilding the server and just use blogspot? Lastly, are you really saying that people aren't donating to PyPy because some supportive blog site somewhere else, run by who knows who, isn't hosted on pypy.org?

sandGorgon 8y ago
yeah - because people dont go to the homepage. what gets tweeted out is this blogspot page (including here on HN). So people check out the nice blog post and see a donate link on the left of https://morepypy.blogspot.com/ https://morepypy.blogspot.com/ and then go ...hmm, looks shady. Not many read the blog post, then go to Google, search for pypy and then click the link and then donate. Fundraising is not an easy process - there is an aspect of sales here. Blogspot may be easy.. but its not good branding. And that was my point - cos I want them to succeed.
- eesmith 8y ago
  Please explain how it looks shady, because I don't understand it. If I start a blog - completely independent of PyPy - which promotes PyPy and describes the development efforts, and I want to encourage people to support the PyPy project, then I might link to the PyPy donation page, yes? Yet, because I'm not affiliated with the project, I can't put the blog under pypy.org. Would my blog also be shady? If so, doesn't that mean that no one should promote donating to a project unless that promotion is done under the project's domain? You write "Not many read the blog post, then go to Google, search for pypy and then click the link and then donate." That would be true even if the blog post were hosted under pypy.org. That is, why would anyone donate after reading one blog post? I would think that more people would donate after they download PyPy, try it out, and see that it's worthwhile enough to fund. In that case, they've already found out how to get PyPy, so there's no need to "Google, search for pypy" because they've already done that. Nor is PyPy unusual in this respect. It's hard to find projects which have both a blog and a donate page. Of the 50 so projects I looked at, the following are "shady" according to your definition: - the PSF blog (hosted on blogspot) links to the python.org page for donations, eg, https://pyfound.blogspot.com/search?q=donate https://pyfound.blogspot.com/search?q=donate . - The Thunderbird blog has a posting like https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2018/08/whats-new-in-thunderbird-60/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2018/08/whats-new-in-th... linking to https://donate.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ https://donate.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ while the main Thunderbird page is at https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ while: - Orange, with a blog at https://blog.biolab.si/ https://blog.biolab.si/ is a sibling subdomain to the main project site at https://orange.biolab.si/ https://orange.biolab.si/ , making it ... semi-shady? I mean, how are we to know that "biolab.si" is not some sort of large ISP where any of their customers can make a subdomain? I did find a two places where the "donate" and "blog" pages were hosted on the same domain: http://rssbandit.org/ http://rssbandit.org/ (which links to a SourceForce page which redirects to PayPal) and http://sagerss.com/ http://sagerss.com/ . To summarize, I don't see why it's shady, your view seems to mean that no one should promote donating to a project except for the project itself, static site generation tools don't seem to be a good fit for blog support, and it doesn't seem like the effort to change to a single domain would have a worthwhile effect on improving the donation rate.