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You know, unless you're VERY careful about your shopping, you're also using sweatshop labor (to manufacture your clothes, electronics etc.). Also, I don't thin
by badpun 8y ago
You know, unless you're VERY careful about your shopping, you're also using sweatshop labor (to manufacture your clothes, electronics etc.).
Also, I don't think that Apple is especially covert about them being a (heartless) business like everybody else. Steve Jobs even said, in response to a question about bringing manufacturing back to USA: "We're in the business of making phones, not in the business of employing people". It was clear that people were mainly just means to an end for him.
- jrumbut 8y agoI think it's better to advocate for improvement without practicing it than it is to not practice it and not advocate. Better to do one thing right if that's the best you can pull off!
- pampa 8y agoIt is not. Advocating online gives you the warm and fuzzy feeling that you did something right, without actually doing anything.
- badpun 8y ago> I think it's better to advocate for improvement without practicing it than it is to not practice it and not advocate. Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?
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- brianpgordon 8y agoDon't get me wrong, I'm as guilty as anyone of ordering everything on Amazon or at Costco and killing local businesses, or whatever. But I'm not running what must be one of the world's best-funded PR machines telling everyone how great I am. Let's just call a spade a spade, eh? For all the "made in California" / "environmentally friendly materials/packaging" / "100% renewable energy in our facilities" stuff that's supposed to make you feel good about buying their products, the reality is a lot more grim. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happened-after-the-foxconn-suicides/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happened-after-the-foxconn... And anyway the particular point I was replying to is that it's pretty silly to absolve Apple of responsibility just because they put a layer of contractor between them and the bad behavior. They know what's going on. It's no different ethically from Apple doing it.
- ataturk 8y agoWelcome to the 21st century. You're an information sharecropper. And don't tell me about the great wages because inflation is eating that up before your very eyes. It's a fucking illusion of prosperity with no actual prosperity.