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and the scope creep for the bad Online Identification begins. First it was no porn, then it was no dating. Soon it will be no rw to access to UK internet withou

by g45y45 8y ago

and the scope creep for the bad Online Identification begins. First it was no porn, then it was no dating. Soon it will be no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID. Disconnect the UK before the damage spreads!

Chazprime 8y ago
Right, and once we let the gays marry, soon we'll have people marrying farm animals!
- Ours90 8y ago
  And this is related to the whole discussion how?
  - fabianhjr 8y ago
    He is alluding that the comment he replied to is using a slippery slope fallacy. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Slippery_slope https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Slippery_slope
    - Ours90 8y ago
      I didn't catch the sarcasm there. Now it makes sense but the parallel he drawn was, in my opinion, still unsuitable.
      - ownagefool 8y ago
        Actually, it's pretty on point if you get the culture and political references for the UK. One would suspect, without looking, that the OP is British.
  - Chazprime 8y ago
    It was just a comment on usage of the slippery-slope fallacy here. Sarcastic, yes...but I felt the original comment borders on fear-mongering.
gizmo686 8y ago
For what it is worth, age verification on dating apps strikes me as far more reasonable than age verification for porn
purple_ducks 8y ago
> no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID Fantastic. Everything attributable to a public pseudonym privately tied to a real person. This sounds exactly how it should be. If somebody tries to subvert the law, they can easily be arrested and tried in a court of law.
- mschuster91 8y ago
  This is utterly damaging to democracy - a real democracy needs anonymity to survive. Removing anonymity will lead to people limiting for example posting critical opinions of the government or a political party. The reason is simple: even if you trust the current government to not abuse all the tasty meta-data, who says the next government, led by the party you vocally criticized on the Internet, will look away? Just look at China, or what Turkey is doing, or even what US border checks asking for your social media logins are doing right now.
- pjc50 8y ago
  Christ no. Not only is this the end of certain kinds of dissidence and protest, how does it apply to business communications and automated systems? The options are ludicrous - either you have the CEO personally criminally liable for a gazillion hacked routers, or you have an environment where dissidents can be hunted but all sorts of malicious foreign actors hide behind business fronts.

by g45y45 8y ago

Chazprime 8y ago

Right, and once we let the gays marry, soon we'll have people marrying farm animals!

Ours90 8y ago
And this is related to the whole discussion how?
- fabianhjr 8y ago
  He is alluding that the comment he replied to is using a slippery slope fallacy. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Slippery_slope https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Slippery_slope
  - Ours90 8y ago
    I didn't catch the sarcasm there. Now it makes sense but the parallel he drawn was, in my opinion, still unsuitable.
    - ownagefool 8y ago
      Actually, it's pretty on point if you get the culture and political references for the UK. One would suspect, without looking, that the OP is British.
- Chazprime 8y ago
  It was just a comment on usage of the slippery-slope fallacy here. Sarcastic, yes...but I felt the original comment borders on fear-mongering.

gizmo686 8y ago

For what it is worth, age verification on dating apps strikes me as far more reasonable than age verification for porn

purple_ducks 8y ago

> no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID Fantastic. Everything attributable to a public pseudonym privately tied to a real person. This sounds exactly how it should be. If somebody tries to subvert the law, they can easily be arrested and tried in a court of law.

mschuster91 8y ago
This is utterly damaging to democracy - a real democracy needs anonymity to survive. Removing anonymity will lead to people limiting for example posting critical opinions of the government or a political party. The reason is simple: even if you trust the current government to not abuse all the tasty meta-data, who says the next government, led by the party you vocally criticized on the Internet, will look away? Just look at China, or what Turkey is doing, or even what US border checks asking for your social media logins are doing right now.
pjc50 8y ago
Christ no. Not only is this the end of certain kinds of dissidence and protest, how does it apply to business communications and automated systems? The options are ludicrous - either you have the CEO personally criminally liable for a gazillion hacked routers, or you have an environment where dissidents can be hunted but all sorts of malicious foreign actors hide behind business fronts.