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The problem though is how do you bill clients? If you're "working" and surfing HN you could possibly bill that, but walking around talking to neighbours doesn't
by rb808 8y ago
The problem though is how do you bill clients? If you're "working" and surfing HN you could possibly bill that, but walking around talking to neighbours doesn't cut it.
- zilian 8y agoSo many consulting companies would bill those hours anyway
- TrickyRick 8y agoBill by FTE day/week/month instead. Much better for your nerves and easier to invoice.
- chrisweekly 8y agoProject-based billing solves this neatly. It also ensures alignment of incentives (ie, working faster / more efficiently yields higher effective rate, vs working faster -> get paid less), and is helpful in emphasizing value. For time and materials projects, avoid hourly if possible; that leads to micromanagement and commodification of your skills. I recommend billing by sprints or by the week. Try to limit granularity to a day rate (w/ minimum increments of 1/2 day).
- sacado2 8y agoIt's better from the client POV too. As a client, I have work that must be done, I want to know how much it will cost, I don't care whether it takes you 3 hours or 10 hours, and I especially don't want to hear "whoops... I miscalculated, I will need more time, gimme more money".
- hopler 8y agoWhat is the argument that goofing on HN is more justifiable to a client than walking and talking?
- neuralzen 8y agoI believe this is billed as "Executive Creative Time" in modern nomenclature.
- gdy 8y agoWhat's the difference? Billing for any of these seem equally dishonest.
- nicky0 8y agoCharge for the project. "You logo will cost $5,000" Hourly billing is for chumps.