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So the tutorial requires me to login with github? Sorry, not gonna happen.

midway 8y ago
This is great comment and while Zeit/Next.js related folks are happy to explain in this thread why Next is so great, they're not give us any reason why we need to login for a random tutorial. Maybe it's to generate leads? Leads which can be converted to paying customers? This why this whole thing shouldn't be on HN, this thing is conflicted from the ground and driven by commercial interests.
- lkbr 8y ago
  Yo, you wanna chillout with flinging the accusations? Every single one of your comments in this whole thread is either bullheaded negative or a subtle suggestion that Next.js is some marketing conspiracy without its own merit. If you don't like Next or don't see its usefulness thats fine, but 30,000 stars on Github and pretty varied list[1] of companies seems to suggest that some people do find it useful. I am not affiliated with Zeit or Next.js in any particular way. Just a happy user of Next and appreciative of all the hard work put into it. [1] https://nextjs.org/showcase/ https://nextjs.org/showcase/
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dirkc 8y ago
You can still access the content without logging in, just use the navigation on the left rather than clicking on "login & start". It does feel pretty aggressive of them to want you to log in.
- deltron3030 8y ago
  The content that is accessible through the navigation seams to be only a teaser for the content that is hidden behind the login.
vtambourine 8y ago
Why they require login for tutorial pages in the first place?
- andreareina 8y ago
  The copy says it's some interactive thing with quizzes and such.
  - ozten 8y ago
    I didn't get any value out of the 'gamification' element. Would have preferred to have not logged in.
    - timneutkens 8y ago
      We're currently working on rewriting /learn to not require any login while still retaining the gamification element (in offline storage). Meaning that you get the best of both worlds. Just to explain the reason there is a login at all, this is mostly for historical reasons. The original learnnextjs.com built by Arunoda was based on another project he created for teaching Meteor. Anyway as said we're rewriting /learn, using MDX (http://github.com/mdx-js/mdx http://github.com/mdx-js/mdx) for content and the quizzes will store the result in your browser.
      - ozten 8y ago
        Very cool! Makes sense that you got it for free from Meteor, great that you're iterating based on feedback.
        timneutkens 8y ago
        > great that you're iterating based on feedback Thank you for providing feedback in a friendly way, we're always happy to improve where possible! In case you're curious we have a WIP pull-request: https://github.com/zeit/next-site/pull/159 https://github.com/zeit/next-site/pull/159

This is great comment and while Zeit/Next.js related folks are happy to explain in this thread why Next is so great, they're not give us any reason why we need to login for a random tutorial. Maybe it's to generate leads? Leads which can be converted to paying customers? This why this whole thing shouldn't be on HN, this thing is conflicted from the ground and driven by commercial interests.

lkbr 8y ago
Yo, you wanna chillout with flinging the accusations? Every single one of your comments in this whole thread is either bullheaded negative or a subtle suggestion that Next.js is some marketing conspiracy without its own merit. If you don't like Next or don't see its usefulness thats fine, but 30,000 stars on Github and pretty varied list[1] of companies seems to suggest that some people do find it useful. I am not affiliated with Zeit or Next.js in any particular way. Just a happy user of Next and appreciative of all the hard work put into it. [1] https://nextjs.org/showcase/ https://nextjs.org/showcase/
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dirkc 8y ago

You can still access the content without logging in, just use the navigation on the left rather than clicking on "login & start". It does feel pretty aggressive of them to want you to log in.

deltron3030 8y ago
The content that is accessible through the navigation seams to be only a teaser for the content that is hidden behind the login.

vtambourine 8y ago

Why they require login for tutorial pages in the first place?

andreareina 8y ago
The copy says it's some interactive thing with quizzes and such.
- ozten 8y ago
  I didn't get any value out of the 'gamification' element. Would have preferred to have not logged in.
  - timneutkens 8y ago
    We're currently working on rewriting /learn to not require any login while still retaining the gamification element (in offline storage). Meaning that you get the best of both worlds. Just to explain the reason there is a login at all, this is mostly for historical reasons. The original learnnextjs.com built by Arunoda was based on another project he created for teaching Meteor. Anyway as said we're rewriting /learn, using MDX (http://github.com/mdx-js/mdx http://github.com/mdx-js/mdx) for content and the quizzes will store the result in your browser.
    - ozten 8y ago
      Very cool! Makes sense that you got it for free from Meteor, great that you're iterating based on feedback.
      - timneutkens 8y ago
        > great that you're iterating based on feedback Thank you for providing feedback in a friendly way, we're always happy to improve where possible! In case you're curious we have a WIP pull-request: https://github.com/zeit/next-site/pull/159 https://github.com/zeit/next-site/pull/159