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I think what a lot of commentators are missing is that even without a trade war, IPhone shipments would have fallen in China. In the past, the android phones k

I think what a lot of commentators are missing is that even without a trade war, IPhone shipments would have fallen in China. In the past, the android phones kept focussing on features (remember the s3 ads about how it had all these features missing in the 4/4s). Now, especially with Huawei, they've really mastered the art of branding and messaging on their products. When Huawei listed a phone with 3 cameras and cost more than an iphone, I knew that was a home run. The higher price reinforced the image of the premiumness of Huawei which benefitted all their products down the line as evidenced by their sales numbers. They've finally realized the Xiaomi (same quality at a lower price), actually doesn't work on an emotional level with consumers. Instead, Huawei have gone to the extreme (Leica partnership lenses + 3 cameras). They've been doing this for a while, and results just take time to show and now they have.

JohnJamesRambo 8y ago
What do the 3 cameras do?
- addicted 8y ago
  Make it seem that literally the only feature regular phone users upgrade for is a lot better on the Huawei.
- baybal2 8y ago
  Supposedly better than 2 cameras, but not as good as 5 or 7 cameras. Still, you can proudly tell people "my phone has more cameras than yours" :)
  - Haga 8y ago
    My phone finds others nearby photographing and recombines those willing into one giant parallax camera.. Beat that
- ninedays 8y ago
  It doesn't really matter as long as it creates a sense of uniqueness for the consumer. Remember all these octo-cores smartphones that were supposed to perform way better than the two-cores smartphones? It's only there to tell you "3 cameras are better than 2" even though no one understands what it does. Same with cores : "wow 8 cores? 8 is such a big number compared to 2 cores therefore it must be way better/faster"
  - dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
    May or may not be the case. > “When I first heard that Huawei’s new flagship device was going to have three rear-facing cameras I was sceptical,” said Ben Wood, chief of research at CCS Insight. “But it feels like the company has added meaningful features rather than gimmicks, including the five-times telephoto zoom, excellent low light, long exposure performance and crisp black and white pictures the dedicated monochrome lens offers.” https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/huawei-p20-pro-smartphone-three-cameras-full-body-screen https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/huawei-p2... > Huawei’s traditional setup of combining the data from a monochrome and a color sensor is still in place, but this time, the color sensor weighs in at a whopping 40 megapixels. You’ll have the option to use that entire resolution to take photos, though the default setting will be to combine the data from four adjacent pixels into one and thus generate clearer, brighter 10-megapixel shots. One of these quad-pixel pixels inside the P20 Pro measures in at 2µm, which is huge for a smartphone sensor. Google’s Pixel 2, for comparison, has 1.4µm pixels, while the regular P20, which has a 12-megapixel main sensor, comes with 1.55µm pixels. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/27/17165822/huawei-p20-pro-specs-price-release-date https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/27/17165822/huawei-p20-pro-s...
    - baybal2 8y ago
      I have Maimang 5 - a budget phone from almost 4 years ago. Despite it budgetness, it still came with the best camera chip on the market at the time, and with far from budget parts, aside from SoC. And it was never advertised on those points.
- SiVal 8y ago
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this means three "lenses" on the main camera, not three cameras. And I'm excited to see what future cameras with multiple lenses, synthetic aperture techniques, and lots of computation will provide.
  - close04 8y ago
    There are 3 cameras with 3 individual sensors and their associated lenses. [0] [0] https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p20-pro-teardown-853512/ https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p20-pro-teardown-853...
- mtgx 8y ago
  3x optical zoom. And I think each have different characteristics like one is normal, one is wide-angle and one is telephoto.

JohnJamesRambo 8y ago

What do the 3 cameras do?

addicted 8y ago
Make it seem that literally the only feature regular phone users upgrade for is a lot better on the Huawei.
baybal2 8y ago
Supposedly better than 2 cameras, but not as good as 5 or 7 cameras. Still, you can proudly tell people "my phone has more cameras than yours" :)
- Haga 8y ago
  My phone finds others nearby photographing and recombines those willing into one giant parallax camera.. Beat that
ninedays 8y ago
It doesn't really matter as long as it creates a sense of uniqueness for the consumer. Remember all these octo-cores smartphones that were supposed to perform way better than the two-cores smartphones? It's only there to tell you "3 cameras are better than 2" even though no one understands what it does. Same with cores : "wow 8 cores? 8 is such a big number compared to 2 cores therefore it must be way better/faster"
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
  May or may not be the case. > “When I first heard that Huawei’s new flagship device was going to have three rear-facing cameras I was sceptical,” said Ben Wood, chief of research at CCS Insight. “But it feels like the company has added meaningful features rather than gimmicks, including the five-times telephoto zoom, excellent low light, long exposure performance and crisp black and white pictures the dedicated monochrome lens offers.” https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/huawei-p20-pro-smartphone-three-cameras-full-body-screen https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/huawei-p2... > Huawei’s traditional setup of combining the data from a monochrome and a color sensor is still in place, but this time, the color sensor weighs in at a whopping 40 megapixels. You’ll have the option to use that entire resolution to take photos, though the default setting will be to combine the data from four adjacent pixels into one and thus generate clearer, brighter 10-megapixel shots. One of these quad-pixel pixels inside the P20 Pro measures in at 2µm, which is huge for a smartphone sensor. Google’s Pixel 2, for comparison, has 1.4µm pixels, while the regular P20, which has a 12-megapixel main sensor, comes with 1.55µm pixels. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/27/17165822/huawei-p20-pro-specs-price-release-date https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/27/17165822/huawei-p20-pro-s...
  - baybal2 8y ago
    I have Maimang 5 - a budget phone from almost 4 years ago. Despite it budgetness, it still came with the best camera chip on the market at the time, and with far from budget parts, aside from SoC. And it was never advertised on those points.
SiVal 8y ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this means three "lenses" on the main camera, not three cameras. And I'm excited to see what future cameras with multiple lenses, synthetic aperture techniques, and lots of computation will provide.
- close04 8y ago
  There are 3 cameras with 3 individual sensors and their associated lenses. [0] [0] https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p20-pro-teardown-853512/ https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p20-pro-teardown-853...
mtgx 8y ago
3x optical zoom. And I think each have different characteristics like one is normal, one is wide-angle and one is telephoto.