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The origins of this report are suspect. At worst it is saying someone at NHTSA did the calculations incorrectly — a bold claim they admit even they can’t say f

The origins of this report are suspect. At worst it is saying someone at NHTSA did the calculations incorrectly — a bold claim they admit even they can’t say for certain people because of redactions. Someone calculating the data incorrectly doesn’t make AutoPilot any more or less safe than it has been since the NHTSA reviewed the data in 2007. In any case an analysis from 2007 is hardly relevant today given how much the software has changed.

ejstronge 8y ago
> The origins of this report are suspect. Potentially, but the data is now available and you can repeat the analysis yourself, which is a better position than we were in two days ago. > a bold claim they admit even they can’t say for certain people because of redactions. I'm not sure where they claim this - their lawsuit actually asks for all communications related to the NHTSA figure in question. > Someone calculating the data incorrectly doesn’t make AutoPilot any more or less safe than it has been since the NHTSA reviewed the data in 2007. Note the year in question is 2016. In fact, we did not know how safe autosteer technologies were - this report shows that the report so many of us had relied on was, at best, poorly constructed. > In any case an analysis from 2007 is hardly relevant today given how much the software has changed. Again, the correct year is 2016. This could be true - hopefully Tesla will release a response with the data made available for independent analysts to assess the safety of their autosteer technology.
- manicdee 8y ago
  This report shows nothing since the dataset was heavily redacted, the author cherry picked clean-looking data from a garbage dataset, and the auhor’s “findings” are entirely dependent on assuming the data is accurate having just spent the entire report describing how inaccurate the data is.

ejstronge 8y ago

> The origins of this report are suspect. Potentially, but the data is now available and you can repeat the analysis yourself, which is a better position than we were in two days ago. > a bold claim they admit even they can’t say for certain people because of redactions. I'm not sure where they claim this - their lawsuit actually asks for all communications related to the NHTSA figure in question. > Someone calculating the data incorrectly doesn’t make AutoPilot any more or less safe than it has been since the NHTSA reviewed the data in 2007. Note the year in question is 2016. In fact, we did not know how safe autosteer technologies were - this report shows that the report so many of us had relied on was, at best, poorly constructed. > In any case an analysis from 2007 is hardly relevant today given how much the software has changed. Again, the correct year is 2016. This could be true - hopefully Tesla will release a response with the data made available for independent analysts to assess the safety of their autosteer technology.

manicdee 8y ago
This report shows nothing since the dataset was heavily redacted, the author cherry picked clean-looking data from a garbage dataset, and the auhor’s “findings” are entirely dependent on assuming the data is accurate having just spent the entire report describing how inaccurate the data is.