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Somehow, I don't think this is a good thing to be promoting. How many times do people make risks like this and fail? If I stole a million dollars from a family

Somehow, I don't think this is a good thing to be promoting. How many times do people make risks like this and fail? If I stole a million dollars from a family member and spent it on lottery tickets and won would that make me right? It is also pretty disrespectful to your parent to not even ask them for the money first.

l_camacho84 8y ago
We reading this kind of news we need to be concerned about survivourship bias. How many people did the same and lost everything? That people don't appear on BBC but they are far more than the success examples. https://xkcd.com/1827/ https://xkcd.com/1827/
ububu18 8y ago
tells a lot about society that people are so proud on beeing an ahole and having success with it.
- vinceguidry 8y ago
  Tells a lot about me that I actually clicked through to the article and skimmed it.
mbrumlow 8y ago
I think whoever you stole the money from might have a strong case of owning the ticket and taking the entire lot. Maybe I am getting old, because I keep seeing articles written glorifying doing bad things. Such as this and sneaking into paid venues -- because "mhy fun" and "stick it to the man" without realizing that people following even the most simple of the rules is what makes any society work.
- tapland 8y ago
  It's thrilling content for a lot of us who would never consider doing anything like this. It reads as a story where you want to hear 'what happened next?'. Those who take inspiration from it we need to worry about wether or not the story is written.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >people following even the most simple of the rules is what makes any society work. And some people breaking those rules is what makes society tolerable.
  - derp_dee_derp 8y ago
    Where is the line? Breaking into concerts? Breaking into homes? Assault? Murder? Assassinating politicians? Overthrowing elected governments? People breaking rules is what makes society collapse.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      There's no hard line. All of those things, at different times, can be hugely beneficial and take society forward. Many revolutions involved assault and murder (from the French Revolution to Cromwell). May 68 was all about "overthrowing elected governments". In the punk era "breaking into concerts" was routine -- and a way for poorer kids to afford seeing some bands they liked. (There's a very nice scene in Cinema Paradiso for how kids/teenagers would also break/sneak/into cinemas to watch the film free -- or watch more adult films, a huge part of the old Italian culture, also common in other European countries).
      - mbrumlow 8y ago
        So what I hear is if you are poor, then it is okay? Could the poor kids not have mowed lawns, or done handy work around where they live to be able to save up money to buy the ticket properly? But even so, breaking laws and rules simply for enjoyment is not the path to sustained enjoyment. The path to sustained enjoyment is discipline and focus, not instant gratification of breaking the law, which in the long run will probably just make it even harder for said person to experience real enjoyment. I don't buy your argument that because your life is shitty you can do shitty things.
        coldtea 8y ago
        >Could the poor kids not have mowed lawns, or done handy work around where they live to be able to save up money to buy the ticket properly? The rich kids didn't have to do those things, so why should they? That was intended as a lesson in civility, but it's actually a lesson is servility and injustice. Those were just as good kids as any other, they just happened to have born into the "wrong" (ie poor) parents. Hopefully at some point in a future society we would see the less access by those poor kids the same way we see segregation today, and not just ask "why couldn't they mowe lawns" to get the same thing the rich kids got doing nothing. (Though the real answer is that those poor kids in 40s-50s Italy probably already worked much harder than "mowing lawns", and they still had their priorities, like helping feed their families. (Not to mention it was deemed OK by the society and seen with understanding, they weren't stuck-up on commercialization like other cultures).
lixtra 8y ago
At least it emphasizes how important capital is. Even relatively small amounts make the difference. I read this, that you should provide plenty of funding to your kids early. He could have taken it from his official college savings account for example.

l_camacho84 8y ago

We reading this kind of news we need to be concerned about survivourship bias. How many people did the same and lost everything? That people don't appear on BBC but they are far more than the success examples. https://xkcd.com/1827/ https://xkcd.com/1827/

ububu18 8y ago

tells a lot about society that people are so proud on beeing an ahole and having success with it.

vinceguidry 8y ago
Tells a lot about me that I actually clicked through to the article and skimmed it.

mbrumlow 8y ago

I think whoever you stole the money from might have a strong case of owning the ticket and taking the entire lot. Maybe I am getting old, because I keep seeing articles written glorifying doing bad things. Such as this and sneaking into paid venues -- because "mhy fun" and "stick it to the man" without realizing that people following even the most simple of the rules is what makes any society work.

tapland 8y ago
It's thrilling content for a lot of us who would never consider doing anything like this. It reads as a story where you want to hear 'what happened next?'. Those who take inspiration from it we need to worry about wether or not the story is written.
coldtea 8y ago
>people following even the most simple of the rules is what makes any society work. And some people breaking those rules is what makes society tolerable.
- derp_dee_derp 8y ago
  Where is the line? Breaking into concerts? Breaking into homes? Assault? Murder? Assassinating politicians? Overthrowing elected governments? People breaking rules is what makes society collapse.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    There's no hard line. All of those things, at different times, can be hugely beneficial and take society forward. Many revolutions involved assault and murder (from the French Revolution to Cromwell). May 68 was all about "overthrowing elected governments". In the punk era "breaking into concerts" was routine -- and a way for poorer kids to afford seeing some bands they liked. (There's a very nice scene in Cinema Paradiso for how kids/teenagers would also break/sneak/into cinemas to watch the film free -- or watch more adult films, a huge part of the old Italian culture, also common in other European countries).
    - mbrumlow 8y ago
      So what I hear is if you are poor, then it is okay? Could the poor kids not have mowed lawns, or done handy work around where they live to be able to save up money to buy the ticket properly? But even so, breaking laws and rules simply for enjoyment is not the path to sustained enjoyment. The path to sustained enjoyment is discipline and focus, not instant gratification of breaking the law, which in the long run will probably just make it even harder for said person to experience real enjoyment. I don't buy your argument that because your life is shitty you can do shitty things.
      - coldtea 8y ago
        >Could the poor kids not have mowed lawns, or done handy work around where they live to be able to save up money to buy the ticket properly? The rich kids didn't have to do those things, so why should they? That was intended as a lesson in civility, but it's actually a lesson is servility and injustice. Those were just as good kids as any other, they just happened to have born into the "wrong" (ie poor) parents. Hopefully at some point in a future society we would see the less access by those poor kids the same way we see segregation today, and not just ask "why couldn't they mowe lawns" to get the same thing the rich kids got doing nothing. (Though the real answer is that those poor kids in 40s-50s Italy probably already worked much harder than "mowing lawns", and they still had their priorities, like helping feed their families. (Not to mention it was deemed OK by the society and seen with understanding, they weren't stuck-up on commercialization like other cultures).

lixtra 8y ago

At least it emphasizes how important capital is. Even relatively small amounts make the difference. I read this, that you should provide plenty of funding to your kids early. He could have taken it from his official college savings account for example.