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Whatever your opinion of Russian politics, from a technical standpoint, aiming for full autonomy of critical services at a national scale, is praise worthy! If

Whatever your opinion of Russian politics, from a technical standpoint, aiming for full autonomy of critical services at a national scale, is praise worthy! If successful, this is also scary, as Russia will be free to wreck havoc on the general internet, without domestic impact

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Russia will be free to wreck havoc on the general internet, without domestic impact This is like demolishing one’s cities to claim immunity from nuclear attack. There’s no reason the damage couldn’t have been incurred at a later date, only when necessary. Disconnecting from the world will leave Russia economically, scientifically, culturally and thus militarily poorer. The only reason the decision makes sense is it helps keep Putin and his gang in power.
ackbar03 8y ago
I think this kind of exercise and thinking is also pretty ahead of its time, Russia really understands the implications of cyber warfare. Ww3 is really going to take place on the net
- Pharmakon 8y ago
  Correction: WW3 might start online, but it will end with mushroom clouds. To the GP Whatever your opinion of Russian politics, from a technical standpoint, aiming for full autonomy of critical services at a national scale, is praise worthy! Sure, and the Nazis were really organized, why they almost made it to Moscow.
  - konart 8y ago
    >they almost made it to Moscow. And almost made it back.
ocdtrekkie 8y ago
Indeed. I think of all those "Slack is down, everyone can't work" moments when I think of this. They're really trying to remove outside dependencies, and limiting the ability for other actors to use those dependencies against them. My guess is the US thinks along the same lines, but since most things Internet are US-based to begin with, they're probably less concerned with a dramatic public test.
- nur0n 8y ago
  > since most things Internet are US-based What is meant by this?
  - awad 8y ago
    From a practical standpoint, most users in the US are accessing US-shored services.
    - disordinary 8y ago
      Yep, there's no aws Russian region but plenty in the US.
      - konart 8y ago
        Though they now have new Russia focused jobs: https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search?offset=0&result_limit=10&sort=relevant&distanceType=Mi&radius=24km&latitude=&longitude=&loc_group_id=&loc_query=&base_query=russia&city=&country=&region=&county=&query_options=& https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search?offset=0&result_limit=10&s... Maybe this is not a coincidence.
        disordinary 8y ago
        They obviously have sales there and probably cloud front infrastructure too. Maybe a az in the future, only they know.
      - Retric 8y ago

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> Russia will be free to wreck havoc on the general internet, without domestic impact This is like demolishing one’s cities to claim immunity from nuclear attack. There’s no reason the damage couldn’t have been incurred at a later date, only when necessary. Disconnecting from the world will leave Russia economically, scientifically, culturally and thus militarily poorer. The only reason the decision makes sense is it helps keep Putin and his gang in power.

ackbar03 8y ago

I think this kind of exercise and thinking is also pretty ahead of its time, Russia really understands the implications of cyber warfare. Ww3 is really going to take place on the net

Pharmakon 8y ago
Correction: WW3 might start online, but it will end with mushroom clouds. To the GP Whatever your opinion of Russian politics, from a technical standpoint, aiming for full autonomy of critical services at a national scale, is praise worthy! Sure, and the Nazis were really organized, why they almost made it to Moscow.
- konart 8y ago
  >they almost made it to Moscow. And almost made it back.

ocdtrekkie 8y ago

Indeed. I think of all those "Slack is down, everyone can't work" moments when I think of this. They're really trying to remove outside dependencies, and limiting the ability for other actors to use those dependencies against them. My guess is the US thinks along the same lines, but since most things Internet are US-based to begin with, they're probably less concerned with a dramatic public test.

nur0n 8y ago
> since most things Internet are US-based What is meant by this?
- awad 8y ago
  From a practical standpoint, most users in the US are accessing US-shored services.
  - disordinary 8y ago
    Yep, there's no aws Russian region but plenty in the US.
    - konart 8y ago
      Though they now have new Russia focused jobs: https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search?offset=0&result_limit=10&sort=relevant&distanceType=Mi&radius=24km&latitude=&longitude=&loc_group_id=&loc_query=&base_query=russia&city=&country=&region=&county=&query_options=& https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search?offset=0&result_limit=10&s... Maybe this is not a coincidence.
      - disordinary 8y ago
        They obviously have sales there and probably cloud front infrastructure too. Maybe a az in the future, only they know.
    - Retric 8y ago