I hope you understand that there is no debate going on between us. This is merely an outsider's understanding of how a church functions. In the context of this

I hope you understand that there is no debate going on between us. This is merely an outsider's understanding of how a church functions. In the context of this thread it is irrelevant how effective / ineffective, good / bad a church is. The church is used to define an entity that represents a contrast to reddit's intended functionality.