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No, it absolutely doesn't. The scope for an electronic voting system is anything and everything that a hostile world power's intelligence agency might be able t

No, it absolutely doesn't. The scope for an electronic voting system is anything and everything that a hostile world power's intelligence agency might be able to try. If you want to use a bounty program to convince people a voting system is secure, it needs to include immunity for kidnapping and torturing key staff members and their families, and other real-world activities, in addition to all the electronic attack surface in the universe. This is clearly unreasonable... and so is electronic voting.

anarazel 8y ago
Meh. Mail voting shares that part, so removing it from the scope of testing for electronic voting makes plenty sense.
rjf72 8y ago
When comparing one system to another you should generally do just that. Not compare one system to an absolutely perfect and flawless system. The NYT had a pretty solid article [1] on the fiasco that happened in Florida in their 2018 elections. But I think a couple of paragraphs cut to the heart of the issue: Florida’s protracted 2018 midterm election has revealed the warts of an imperfect voting system that normally go unnoticed. This time, the world is watching, and South Florida election officials are being exposed for sloppy processes that in some cases, a judge found this week, violated both state law and the Constitution. Yet those very procedures are common during elections, political analysts in Florida say; they just don’t get much attention most of the time because most elections end with wide enough margins of victory that few people scrutinize them. Our current election systems are pretty bad, as illustrated by the numerous examples in that article. And that's all just a mixture of internal ineptitude and maybe a pinch of decentralized maliciousness. If you're going to measure the security of a system by some standard of 'cannot be broken by enemy states kidnapping and torturing key staff members and their families [to coerce exploitable action]' then it should be clear that our current system fails abysmally. So you need to compare the pros, and indeed the cons, of both systems relative to one another. [1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/us/florida-recount-elections-scott-nelson-desantis-gillum.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/us/florida-recount-electi...

anarazel 8y ago

Meh. Mail voting shares that part, so removing it from the scope of testing for electronic voting makes plenty sense.

rjf72 8y ago

When comparing one system to another you should generally do just that. Not compare one system to an absolutely perfect and flawless system. The NYT had a pretty solid article [1] on the fiasco that happened in Florida in their 2018 elections. But I think a couple of paragraphs cut to the heart of the issue: Florida’s protracted 2018 midterm election has revealed the warts of an imperfect voting system that normally go unnoticed. This time, the world is watching, and South Florida election officials are being exposed for sloppy processes that in some cases, a judge found this week, violated both state law and the Constitution. Yet those very procedures are common during elections, political analysts in Florida say; they just don’t get much attention most of the time because most elections end with wide enough margins of victory that few people scrutinize them. Our current election systems are pretty bad, as illustrated by the numerous examples in that article. And that's all just a mixture of internal ineptitude and maybe a pinch of decentralized maliciousness. If you're going to measure the security of a system by some standard of 'cannot be broken by enemy states kidnapping and torturing key staff members and their families [to coerce exploitable action]' then it should be clear that our current system fails abysmally. So you need to compare the pros, and indeed the cons, of both systems relative to one another. [1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/us/florida-recount-elections-scott-nelson-desantis-gillum.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/us/florida-recount-electi...