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I completely agree. It's tragic how little we value the strengths and contributions of people who just happen to be younger than 18. True story - I met Robert

I completely agree. It's tragic how little we value the strengths and contributions of people who just happen to be younger than 18. True story - I met Robert Epstein's lawyer in Shay's yesterday. He hit on me and insulted my boyfriend. I have his card right here.

mynameishere 18y ago
I have his card right here. Ah, so you also insulted your boyfriend. .............. At any rate, nothing you can say vis-a-vis teenagers today is necessarily comparable to the past. In the past, certain things would have not be thinkable. No--they didn't restrict teenagers from getting tattoo parlors or going into tanning salons (bother invariably stupid behaviors) but only because such things didn't exist. Restrictions on drinking were less severe, no doubt. But such leniancy predated regular car ownership. Likewise, economic changes have changed the meaning of "good" work from manual labor, which teens are capable of, to such things as quiet and steady and detail-oriented paperwork...which teens are not so good at. The bigger problem is the excessive sexualization of young people--not just teens. Somehow I doubt that Psychology Today is too concerned.
- dazzawazza 18y ago
  I think they make a reference to the sexualisation of children through the agressive marketing they refer to. It is because we allow children to act as a herd, directionless and meaningless that they are vulnerable to these powerful marketing techniques. Adults to not allow children to operate in the adult world in any meaningful way so marketing people have filled the vacuum with, well, a vacuum, but a vacuum that they can make money from.
- dgabriel 18y ago
  The card - Please, don't get me wrong, it's not something that will get any usage. It was thrust upon both of us, not secretly slipped to me under a table. Alcohol prohibitions have more to do with the cultural perception of drinking as "sinful," than the danger of driving. And, of course, setting something up as a taboo gives it a more powerful draw. Same with sex. I don't think the argument that teens are mostly suited for manual labor is correct. The amount of homework many teens get and complete is a testament to how well they handle boring paperwork. I'd argue that they're suited for entry level positions in many fields, even as young as 14, and not allowing them that opportunity is not the same as enforcing child labor laws to protect the easily exploited.

mynameishere 18y ago

I have his card right here. Ah, so you also insulted your boyfriend. .............. At any rate, nothing you can say vis-a-vis teenagers today is necessarily comparable to the past. In the past, certain things would have not be thinkable. No--they didn't restrict teenagers from getting tattoo parlors or going into tanning salons (bother invariably stupid behaviors) but only because such things didn't exist. Restrictions on drinking were less severe, no doubt. But such leniancy predated regular car ownership. Likewise, economic changes have changed the meaning of "good" work from manual labor, which teens are capable of, to such things as quiet and steady and detail-oriented paperwork...which teens are not so good at. The bigger problem is the excessive sexualization of young people--not just teens. Somehow I doubt that Psychology Today is too concerned.

dazzawazza 18y ago
I think they make a reference to the sexualisation of children through the agressive marketing they refer to. It is because we allow children to act as a herd, directionless and meaningless that they are vulnerable to these powerful marketing techniques. Adults to not allow children to operate in the adult world in any meaningful way so marketing people have filled the vacuum with, well, a vacuum, but a vacuum that they can make money from.
dgabriel 18y ago
The card - Please, don't get me wrong, it's not something that will get any usage. It was thrust upon both of us, not secretly slipped to me under a table. Alcohol prohibitions have more to do with the cultural perception of drinking as "sinful," than the danger of driving. And, of course, setting something up as a taboo gives it a more powerful draw. Same with sex. I don't think the argument that teens are mostly suited for manual labor is correct. The amount of homework many teens get and complete is a testament to how well they handle boring paperwork. I'd argue that they're suited for entry level positions in many fields, even as young as 14, and not allowing them that opportunity is not the same as enforcing child labor laws to protect the easily exploited.