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I've seen a lot of believable (and true) stuff coming from law enforcement lately about fentanyl.

by DKnoll 8y ago

ggm 8y ago
Fentanyl and Opioids in general? sure. Which they get hooked on because physicians prescribe them with no related treatment for the underlying root causes. So you could kind-of say the fentanyl crisis is about the (non)public health crisis too, right? And there is a huge meth problem in the industrialised world too. I guess I was too sweeping because 'the war on drugs' was for me, all about cocaine, heroin and marijuana. Ollie North, politicized interventions worldwide. The cocaine wars destroyed the structural integrity of central and southern America. Heroin caused such distortions it got mixed up in geopolitics and helped ferment the afghan situation, and marijuana is now de-facto (but federally, not de jure) legal in sufficient places it is clear that what damage it causes is significantly less than the damage of penalising users. Is even raising tax income! But the opioid crisis is real. I don't want pretend there aren't bad drugs out there.
Pharmakon 8y ago
Fentanyl is an easy problem to solve, let people have uncut heroin. Fentanyl and the monstrous Carfentanil are only desireable for black markets, which love the high relative potency:volume. The problem is that the ED50 and LD50 of something like Carfentanil both look like a roughly identical grain of sand. Heroin is only dangerous to the person snorting, smoking, or shooting it up, but god help you if you’re exposed to a similar amount of fentanyl, or get a single grain of carfentanil on your skin. Legalize it, support people who use, support those who want to stop, and do it with money saved by downsizing LEO’s, CO’s and prisons. Support expanded mental healthcare with taxes from drugs (including alcohol). No black market, no piles of ultra-potent synthetic opioids shipped from China or Mexico. It’s the same thing with meth! Want to eliminate janky labs blowing up? Want to stop people dumping lab waste in the woods? Want to stop tweakers from robbing people for meth? Legalize it. It won’t make the world paradise, it will be difficult, but it’s better than prohibition. Just like alcoholism is a scourge, but it’s still better than the same scourge PLUS Al Capone.

I've seen a lot of believable (and true) stuff coming from law enforcement lately about fentanyl.

by DKnoll 8y ago

I've seen a lot of believable (and true) stuff coming from law enforcement lately about fentanyl.

ggm 8y ago

Fentanyl and Opioids in general? sure. Which they get hooked on because physicians prescribe them with no related treatment for the underlying root causes. So you could kind-of say the fentanyl crisis is about the (non)public health crisis too, right? And there is a huge meth problem in the industrialised world too. I guess I was too sweeping because 'the war on drugs' was for me, all about cocaine, heroin and marijuana. Ollie North, politicized interventions worldwide. The cocaine wars destroyed the structural integrity of central and southern America. Heroin caused such distortions it got mixed up in geopolitics and helped ferment the afghan situation, and marijuana is now de-facto (but federally, not de jure) legal in sufficient places it is clear that what damage it causes is significantly less than the damage of penalising users. Is even raising tax income! But the opioid crisis is real. I don't want pretend there aren't bad drugs out there.

Pharmakon 8y ago

Fentanyl is an easy problem to solve, let people have uncut heroin. Fentanyl and the monstrous Carfentanil are only desireable for black markets, which love the high relative potency:volume. The problem is that the ED50 and LD50 of something like Carfentanil both look like a roughly identical grain of sand. Heroin is only dangerous to the person snorting, smoking, or shooting it up, but god help you if you’re exposed to a similar amount of fentanyl, or get a single grain of carfentanil on your skin. Legalize it, support people who use, support those who want to stop, and do it with money saved by downsizing LEO’s, CO’s and prisons. Support expanded mental healthcare with taxes from drugs (including alcohol). No black market, no piles of ultra-potent synthetic opioids shipped from China or Mexico. It’s the same thing with meth! Want to eliminate janky labs blowing up? Want to stop people dumping lab waste in the woods? Want to stop tweakers from robbing people for meth? Legalize it. It won’t make the world paradise, it will be difficult, but it’s better than prohibition. Just like alcoholism is a scourge, but it’s still better than the same scourge PLUS Al Capone.