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Well written explanation! I really enjoy Swift but it's not as accessible as some of the other languages mentioned. I have a 2011 Macbook Pro and wanted to use

Well written explanation! I really enjoy Swift but it's not as accessible as some of the other languages mentioned. I have a 2011 Macbook Pro and wanted to use the latest and greatest new Swift features. Unfortunately, my machine is too old to upgrade to Mojave which means I can't download the latest version of xcode, which means no new version of Swift. I'm not mad at Apple in the least bit. I just wish I could use Swift 4 on my machine.

gthippo 8y ago
You might be interested in checking out Swift on Google Colab (e.g., https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift-tutorials/blob/master/iris/swift_tensorflow_tutorial.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift-tu...)
coldtea 8y ago
Isn't Swift open source and available to build anyway, regardless of Xcode and OS X version? Even on Linux etc?
delinka 8y ago
Have you considered trying to build Swift from source? It's a bit time-consuming the first time, but subsequent updates less so - and you'd have Swift 4 at your disposal.
stephencanon 8y ago
FWIW, you can install Xcode 10.1 on High Sierra, and use the Swift.org 5.0 toolchain (https://swift.org/download/#snapshots https://swift.org/download/#snapshots) or build swift from source. You can't ship App Store apps this way, but it works great for experiments.
- igotsideas 8y ago
  My machine is too old to upgrade to High Sierra.
  - stephencanon 8y ago
    https://support.apple.com/kb/SP765?locale=en_US https://support.apple.com/kb/SP765?locale=en_US > MacBook Pro (Mid 2010 or newer) So your 2011 should be supported. If it's actually an older machine, compiling from source is an option, if slightly inconvenient.
    - igotsideas 8y ago
      You're right. Downloading now. Thank you!
yoz-y 8y ago
If you don't mind stranding from the 100% stable roads, you can install Mojave on your macbook using this patcher: http://dosdude1.com/mojave/ http://dosdude1.com/mojave/ Personally I am running Mojave on a late 2009 macbook pro and it still works amazingly well. Transition from Mojave and especially the new XCode are also way faster than previous iterations. There are caveats though, as the processor in my computer is too old, I had to hack homebrew to compile everything from source. (Also, using the patcher does not hinder my ability to push updates to the App Store or use iMessage, if that is a concern)
- igotsideas 8y ago
  I'm gonna try this, thank you!

gthippo 8y ago

You might be interested in checking out Swift on Google Colab (e.g., https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift-tutorials/blob/master/iris/swift_tensorflow_tutorial.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift-tu...)

coldtea 8y ago

Isn't Swift open source and available to build anyway, regardless of Xcode and OS X version? Even on Linux etc?

delinka 8y ago

Have you considered trying to build Swift from source? It's a bit time-consuming the first time, but subsequent updates less so - and you'd have Swift 4 at your disposal.

stephencanon 8y ago

FWIW, you can install Xcode 10.1 on High Sierra, and use the Swift.org 5.0 toolchain (https://swift.org/download/#snapshots https://swift.org/download/#snapshots) or build swift from source. You can't ship App Store apps this way, but it works great for experiments.

igotsideas 8y ago
My machine is too old to upgrade to High Sierra.
- stephencanon 8y ago
  https://support.apple.com/kb/SP765?locale=en_US https://support.apple.com/kb/SP765?locale=en_US > MacBook Pro (Mid 2010 or newer) So your 2011 should be supported. If it's actually an older machine, compiling from source is an option, if slightly inconvenient.
  - igotsideas 8y ago
    You're right. Downloading now. Thank you!

yoz-y 8y ago

If you don't mind stranding from the 100% stable roads, you can install Mojave on your macbook using this patcher: http://dosdude1.com/mojave/ http://dosdude1.com/mojave/ Personally I am running Mojave on a late 2009 macbook pro and it still works amazingly well. Transition from Mojave and especially the new XCode are also way faster than previous iterations. There are caveats though, as the processor in my computer is too old, I had to hack homebrew to compile everything from source. (Also, using the patcher does not hinder my ability to push updates to the App Store or use iMessage, if that is a concern)

igotsideas 8y ago
I'm gonna try this, thank you!