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Nobody "wants" to be forced to do anything. But, it's a transaction. That youtube video is free to you, the guy who made it deserves some compensation (plus the

by goldcd 8y ago

Nobody "wants" to be forced to do anything. But, it's a transaction. That youtube video is free to you, the guy who made it deserves some compensation (plus the hosting from google isn't free) blah blah. Nothing works unless you provide something of value in exchange - your eyeball for that advert. No eyeball - no content. So unless you've pressed the stop button at this point, the goal is to put the least offensive thing to you on that screen for 10 seconds, with the highest click-through. My point is that there is a win-win to be had here - but they need to know about you to provide it.

MRD85 8y ago
IIRC YouTube has a paid version that removes ads. The option to avoid the ads is already there.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
> That youtube video is free to you, the guy who made it deserves some compensation No, he doesn't. He puts it up for free, and then expects a particular way of compensation. Anywhere else this kind of behaviour is considered antisocial, and is frowned upon; it's advertising industry that tries to perpetuate a lie that they have moral high ground here. It's a deceptive practice. A fair one would be e.g. putting up a paywall. Companies prefer ads because they work better - in the same way that mugging people makes money faster than selling pretzels. Better doesn't automatically mean more ethical.
KozmoNau7 8y ago
Being dependent on ads to make a profit is a bar business model, when ads are so easily blocked, and have often served as a vector for malware attacks. Especially when you just put your stuff up for free in the first place. It doesn't entitle you to compensation. I feel absolutely no obligation to support a deeply flawed business model. That's why I block all ads now and forever, and do my utmost to block any online tracking. I will never whitelist a single ad, because advertising is nothing but lies, designed to steal my time, attention and money. I do not support the "hidden payment" that advertising represents, because it is dishonest and the terms of the deal are opaque. I prefer content creators who are upfront about their funding needs and use services like Patreon or direct donations or merch sales.

by goldcd 8y ago

MRD85 8y ago

IIRC YouTube has a paid version that removes ads. The option to avoid the ads is already there.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

> That youtube video is free to you, the guy who made it deserves some compensation No, he doesn't. He puts it up for free, and then expects a particular way of compensation. Anywhere else this kind of behaviour is considered antisocial, and is frowned upon; it's advertising industry that tries to perpetuate a lie that they have moral high ground here. It's a deceptive practice. A fair one would be e.g. putting up a paywall. Companies prefer ads because they work better - in the same way that mugging people makes money faster than selling pretzels. Better doesn't automatically mean more ethical.

KozmoNau7 8y ago

Being dependent on ads to make a profit is a bar business model, when ads are so easily blocked, and have often served as a vector for malware attacks. Especially when you just put your stuff up for free in the first place. It doesn't entitle you to compensation. I feel absolutely no obligation to support a deeply flawed business model. That's why I block all ads now and forever, and do my utmost to block any online tracking. I will never whitelist a single ad, because advertising is nothing but lies, designed to steal my time, attention and money. I do not support the "hidden payment" that advertising represents, because it is dishonest and the terms of the deal are opaque. I prefer content creators who are upfront about their funding needs and use services like Patreon or direct donations or merch sales.