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Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. The Valencia orange was developed in California; Floridian Valencia or

Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. The Valencia orange was developed in California; Floridian Valencia oranges are just as valid.

eesmith 8y ago
FWIW, details from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_orange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_orange : > William Wolfskill .. migrating to California .. hybridized the Valencia orange, a sweet orange, naming it for Valencia, Spain, which had a reputation for its sweet orange trees. .. The success of this crop in Southern California led to the naming of Valencia, California. > ... In the mid 20th century, Florida botanist Lena B. Smithers Hughes introduced major improvements to the Valencia orange .. the Hughes Valencia bud line [make] up some 60 percent of all Valencia oranges propagated for cultivation in Florida
yesenadam 8y ago
>Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. Your comment would have been much more pleasant and no less informative to read without that first sentence. The only "one-upmanship" I detected was yours.
- arcticfox 8y ago
  The original posted "I'm fortunate" with a nice story about something they enjoy in life (orange juice from local farmers). Then the other one posted "I'm even more fortunate" and wrote about how their oranges were somehow more authentic. To me, it's the definition of one-upsmanship. I live two thousand miles away from the nearest orange tree, so I'm not sure how I'm competing with them.
  - Al-Khwarizmi 8y ago
    Yes, to be honest, I now realize I was a bit of a jerk with that comment. Sorry. And also, nice to learn that the variety doesn't actually come from Valencia!
    - arcticfox 8y ago
      <3
pvaldes 8y ago
The Valencia orange is more like a family of several similar oranges currently. Citrus can "clonate itselves" via seeds, so a Valencia orange in California and other in Florida can be the same plant, or have almost equal (but not identical) genetics. Is complicated to explain. When you talk about a Valencia orange in Florida now is often the clone SPB-1-14-19, sligtly hardier than the original tree from California and different also than the Hughes clone if I'm not wrong. Producer on the other hand is not the same as hybridizer. The original tree was developed in California but is cultured in all suitable areas of the planet. Their patent has expired long time ago

Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. The Valencia orange was developed in California; Floridian Valencia oranges are just as valid.

eesmith 8y ago

FWIW, details from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_orange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_orange : > William Wolfskill .. migrating to California .. hybridized the Valencia orange, a sweet orange, naming it for Valencia, Spain, which had a reputation for its sweet orange trees. .. The success of this crop in Southern California led to the naming of Valencia, California. > ... In the mid 20th century, Florida botanist Lena B. Smithers Hughes introduced major improvements to the Valencia orange .. the Hughes Valencia bud line [make] up some 60 percent of all Valencia oranges propagated for cultivation in Florida

yesenadam 8y ago

>Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. Your comment would have been much more pleasant and no less informative to read without that first sentence. The only "one-upmanship" I detected was yours.

arcticfox 8y ago
The original posted "I'm fortunate" with a nice story about something they enjoy in life (orange juice from local farmers). Then the other one posted "I'm even more fortunate" and wrote about how their oranges were somehow more authentic. To me, it's the definition of one-upsmanship. I live two thousand miles away from the nearest orange tree, so I'm not sure how I'm competing with them.
- Al-Khwarizmi 8y ago
  Yes, to be honest, I now realize I was a bit of a jerk with that comment. Sorry. And also, nice to learn that the variety doesn't actually come from Valencia!
  - arcticfox 8y ago
    <3

pvaldes 8y ago

The Valencia orange is more like a family of several similar oranges currently. Citrus can "clonate itselves" via seeds, so a Valencia orange in California and other in Florida can be the same plant, or have almost equal (but not identical) genetics. Is complicated to explain. When you talk about a Valencia orange in Florida now is often the clone SPB-1-14-19, sligtly hardier than the original tree from California and different also than the Hughes clone if I'm not wrong. Producer on the other hand is not the same as hybridizer. The original tree was developed in California but is cultured in all suitable areas of the planet. Their patent has expired long time ago