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This is just addiction peddling. I think humans spent the 20th Century learning how to live with the availability of unlimited sugar and fat. I could easily c

by 300bps 8y ago

This is just addiction peddling. I think humans spent the 20th Century learning how to live with the availability of unlimited sugar and fat. I could easily consume 10,000 empty calories per day. But instead I’m eating a bag of fresh organic vegetables as I write this because I learned to resist my biological urges to gorge myself on foods designed to trigger them like chips, cookies and soda. I think people in the 21st Century need to learn how live with the availability of unlimited information. To consume more of the mental equivalent of organic vegetables and less of the mental equivalent of soda.

kakarot 8y ago
Children don't usually magically learn things when not taught, especially if those things go against their biological programming. Adults are just children who grew up. There's still no reason to believe they will just "learn" on their own. Instead of favorably comparing yourself, with your bag of organic vegetables (my imagination is running wild picturing what that must look like) and your superior intelligence which led to self-learning how to escape sugar and fat, to the rest of the American populace who clearly need to learn, devote some of your time and expertise to actually making an attempt to educate and help those who don't know better or who are trapped in addiction.
- skybrian 8y ago
  Doing this in a way that doesn't just add to the large amount of noise about nutrition seems quite hard.
  - kakarot 8y ago
    If we don't get enough real information in the mix, then it will only be noise. That's why so many professionals are so adamant about sharing their theories on nutrition. It's just the unfortunate reality that there are also countless special interest groups with particular motives when it comes to spreading disinformation.
    - skybrian 8y ago
      The assumption that "we" have "real information" to share is not something I'm confident in. (I do share links to studies I find interesting, but I don't really believe I can evaluate them and know which ones will hold up.)
      - kakarot 8y ago
        I don't think take a nutritional expert to assert that too much fat and sugar and not enough exercise is a health issue. Or that it takes an expert to recommend a primarily vegetable-based diet. I do think it takes a certain level of expertise to start making claims about things like Keto without just repeating something you heard elsewhere, but a diet with lots of vegetables is undeniably healthy. Don't be afraid to share the knowledge you feel confident in. Just hold back on the stuff in which you aren't confident. :)
        skybrian 8y ago
        I don't think I know anyone who hasn't heard this conventional wisdom many times before. Repeating common beliefs without adding any value (such additional evidence) is an example of what I would consider noise.
        kakarot 8y ago
        You shouldn't feel confident in something just because it's a common belief. You should feel confidant in something because you've researched it well. If you're feeling confident about something without having done your due diligence, that's a separate issue.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
There is a clear health benefit to eating vegetables over chips and not overeating. The effects of binging television are less clear, especially when it’s accepted in advertising that binging television is OK. Look at all the Comcast ads that celebrate binge watching. At least with food advertising it’s been tamped down a bit. Lays potato chips used to have “bet you can’t eat just one” like it was some sort of a drug pusher.
- rnd0 8y ago
  > Look at all the Comcast ads that celebrate binge watching. I think it's more insidious than that -at least the ads I've noticed. There's a lot of normalizing of binge watching. Of making it a "given". When I say "normalizing" I mean things like "Since you're going to be gorging on your favorite shows, use our phone/our service/our devices to do them on the because they're the best". It's not even a question in many ads; the assumption is that you're going to be binging already. Celebrating would be closer to beer commercials ("it's been a hard week, now it's netflix time!").
  - eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
    I totally agree. I see billboards frequently or messaging on the side of businesses “now you can binge better.” When did binge ever become appropriate to use as something to be encouraged?Feels insane. I mean even binge eating vegetables probably shows a problem, it should just be part of a balanced diet.

by 300bps 8y ago

kakarot 8y ago

Children don't usually magically learn things when not taught, especially if those things go against their biological programming. Adults are just children who grew up. There's still no reason to believe they will just "learn" on their own. Instead of favorably comparing yourself, with your bag of organic vegetables (my imagination is running wild picturing what that must look like) and your superior intelligence which led to self-learning how to escape sugar and fat, to the rest of the American populace who clearly need to learn, devote some of your time and expertise to actually making an attempt to educate and help those who don't know better or who are trapped in addiction.

skybrian 8y ago
Doing this in a way that doesn't just add to the large amount of noise about nutrition seems quite hard.
- kakarot 8y ago
  If we don't get enough real information in the mix, then it will only be noise. That's why so many professionals are so adamant about sharing their theories on nutrition. It's just the unfortunate reality that there are also countless special interest groups with particular motives when it comes to spreading disinformation.
  - skybrian 8y ago
    The assumption that "we" have "real information" to share is not something I'm confident in. (I do share links to studies I find interesting, but I don't really believe I can evaluate them and know which ones will hold up.)
    - kakarot 8y ago
      I don't think take a nutritional expert to assert that too much fat and sugar and not enough exercise is a health issue. Or that it takes an expert to recommend a primarily vegetable-based diet. I do think it takes a certain level of expertise to start making claims about things like Keto without just repeating something you heard elsewhere, but a diet with lots of vegetables is undeniably healthy. Don't be afraid to share the knowledge you feel confident in. Just hold back on the stuff in which you aren't confident. :)
      - skybrian 8y ago
        I don't think I know anyone who hasn't heard this conventional wisdom many times before. Repeating common beliefs without adding any value (such additional evidence) is an example of what I would consider noise.
        kakarot 8y ago
        You shouldn't feel confident in something just because it's a common belief. You should feel confidant in something because you've researched it well. If you're feeling confident about something without having done your due diligence, that's a separate issue.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago

There is a clear health benefit to eating vegetables over chips and not overeating. The effects of binging television are less clear, especially when it’s accepted in advertising that binging television is OK. Look at all the Comcast ads that celebrate binge watching. At least with food advertising it’s been tamped down a bit. Lays potato chips used to have “bet you can’t eat just one” like it was some sort of a drug pusher.

rnd0 8y ago
> Look at all the Comcast ads that celebrate binge watching. I think it's more insidious than that -at least the ads I've noticed. There's a lot of normalizing of binge watching. Of making it a "given". When I say "normalizing" I mean things like "Since you're going to be gorging on your favorite shows, use our phone/our service/our devices to do them on the because they're the best". It's not even a question in many ads; the assumption is that you're going to be binging already. Celebrating would be closer to beer commercials ("it's been a hard week, now it's netflix time!").
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
  I totally agree. I see billboards frequently or messaging on the side of businesses “now you can binge better.” When did binge ever become appropriate to use as something to be encouraged?Feels insane. I mean even binge eating vegetables probably shows a problem, it should just be part of a balanced diet.