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> I highly doubt that wave function collapse is just completely random. We just don't see the structure that is creating the "random" distributions we observe.
by semi-extrinsic 8y ago
> I highly doubt that wave function collapse is just completely random. We just don't see the structure that is creating the "random" distributions we observe.
What you're talking about is some form of hidden variables theory[1]. This has been the topic of significant research since the days when Einstein and Bohr had their great debates before WW2. We've had sufficient development in both theory and experiments on this topic to say that either
i) there is "just" standard quantum mechanics
ii) you must abandon local realism, i.e. it is impossible to do independent separated measurements of a quantum system
iii) the world obeys superdeterminism, i.e. there is no free will
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden-variable_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden-variable_theory
- chr1 8y agoHave you seen the blog post at question https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2015/12/what-is-spacetime-really/ https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2015/12/what-is-spacetime-re...? It proposes the 4th way, that is the space is a graph, that only approximately maps to the 3d continuum, so non locality is introduced only as an artifact of mapping, and everything is local on the graph. > iii) the world obeys superdeterminism, i.e. there is no free will Superdeterminism doesn't simply say that there is no free will. (Normal determinism says that too!). The problem with superdeterminism is that it requires the hidden variables to work in a very complicated way. If Alice asks her friend to play mario and give her sequence of 1s and 0s for winning and losing, and Bobs friend plays golf, superdeterminism requires the outcomes of this games to be exactly correlated with the experiment with photons Alice and Bob will do next year!
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