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I disagree that this is required. You can see from Linus Torvald's backtracking on decades of abrasive behavior that it was never an important part of Linux af

I disagree that this is required. You can see from Linus Torvald's backtracking on decades of abrasive behavior that it was never an important part of Linux after all, so an abrasive experience for people trying to help other open source projects is probably going to be superfluous too. You can still reject ideas without disregarding them or the person.

d4mi3n 8y ago
I’m not sure if that logic holds. Who’s to say Linux would not have been more or less successful if Linus had behaved differently? For all we know, Linux may have succeeded despite his behavior, rather than because of it. That said, I feel that a strong and positive community around a project is always an asset. I’ve seen many more projects fail due to community interaction being bad than I have from it being good.
- reificator 8y ago
  Are you sure you're disagreeing with the post you responded to? It sounds like you entirely agree with them, but you open as though you disagree...
  - darkerside 8y ago
    I think he just got the last two phrases backwards :)
notriddle 8y ago
"We don't support running Postgres on NFS" isn't the same thing as "fuck you Intel ACPI team; you're dumber than a chimpanzee". Equating disagreement and criticism with Linus-isms is why the relationship between users and developers is such a mess to begin with. Being a maintainer requires you to say "no" sometimes, but it doesn't require you to be a jerk.
- yourbandsucks 8y ago
  No, it's worse. Linus was trying to make things work, with profanity. Postgres couldn't be bothered. Sure, performative profanity isn't everyone's cup of tea, but milquetoast passive-aggressive dismissals of people like OP who ARE TOTALLY RIGHT aren't actually nice.
  - anarazel 8y ago
    Please cite which parts of the thread you're referring to. Again, several people +1'd the idea, and reviewed the code.
lmm 8y ago
> You can see from Linus Torvald's backtracking on decades of abrasive behavior that it was never an important part of Linux after all It's ten years too soon to conclude that Torvalds backing away from abrasive behaviour didn't kill Linux.

d4mi3n 8y ago

I’m not sure if that logic holds. Who’s to say Linux would not have been more or less successful if Linus had behaved differently? For all we know, Linux may have succeeded despite his behavior, rather than because of it. That said, I feel that a strong and positive community around a project is always an asset. I’ve seen many more projects fail due to community interaction being bad than I have from it being good.

reificator 8y ago
Are you sure you're disagreeing with the post you responded to? It sounds like you entirely agree with them, but you open as though you disagree...
- darkerside 8y ago
  I think he just got the last two phrases backwards :)

notriddle 8y ago

"We don't support running Postgres on NFS" isn't the same thing as "fuck you Intel ACPI team; you're dumber than a chimpanzee". Equating disagreement and criticism with Linus-isms is why the relationship between users and developers is such a mess to begin with. Being a maintainer requires you to say "no" sometimes, but it doesn't require you to be a jerk.

yourbandsucks 8y ago
No, it's worse. Linus was trying to make things work, with profanity. Postgres couldn't be bothered. Sure, performative profanity isn't everyone's cup of tea, but milquetoast passive-aggressive dismissals of people like OP who ARE TOTALLY RIGHT aren't actually nice.
- anarazel 8y ago
  Please cite which parts of the thread you're referring to. Again, several people +1'd the idea, and reviewed the code.

lmm 8y ago

> You can see from Linus Torvald's backtracking on decades of abrasive behavior that it was never an important part of Linux after all It's ten years too soon to conclude that Torvalds backing away from abrasive behaviour didn't kill Linux.