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> This is false. Wine could be implemented, [...] Is the information in this bug outdated? https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284 https://bugs.winehq.o

> This is false. Wine could be implemented, [...] Is the information in this bug outdated? https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284 > Yes. This is by design, because it's very easy to turn a global hotkey mechanism into a keylogger mechanism. Also it's not clear how hotkey conflicts should be handled. It doesn't change that this impacts usability, and a lot of software will need significant updates to accommodate these limitations. > They already work. See xdg-desktop-portal. As I understand, xdg-desktop-portal is one competing mechanism among several. > That's how it works. Wayland doesn't have the magical power to make everybody implement a common interface. I don't understand... by "a common interface", how would that differ in concept from the X11 protocol?

detaro 8y ago
A new common interface can be better designed and take security levels, permissions, ... into account, instead of giving everything access to all windows?
emersion 8y ago
> Is the information in this bug outdated? This comment suggests the same thing as me: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284#c8 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284#c8 > It doesn't change that this impacts usability, and a lot of software will need significant updates to accommodate these limitations. Yes, software needs to be updated to work with Wayland. Though, I'm not personally using a lot of software having global hotkeys, and I can configure global hotkeys in my compositor when needed. > As I understand, xdg-desktop-portal is one competing mechanism among several. It's the most widely supported mechanism. Works on GNOME and KDE, and support for Sway (and more generally wlroots) is WIP. > I don't understand... by "a common interface", how would that differ in concept from the X11 protocol? In the X11 world, all WMs didn't have to agree on a screen capture protocol. Note that there are discussions in progress to improve communication between Wayland compositor writers.

detaro 8y ago

A new common interface can be better designed and take security levels, permissions, ... into account, instead of giving everything access to all windows?

emersion 8y ago

> Is the information in this bug outdated? This comment suggests the same thing as me: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284#c8 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42284#c8 > It doesn't change that this impacts usability, and a lot of software will need significant updates to accommodate these limitations. Yes, software needs to be updated to work with Wayland. Though, I'm not personally using a lot of software having global hotkeys, and I can configure global hotkeys in my compositor when needed. > As I understand, xdg-desktop-portal is one competing mechanism among several. It's the most widely supported mechanism. Works on GNOME and KDE, and support for Sway (and more generally wlroots) is WIP. > I don't understand... by "a common interface", how would that differ in concept from the X11 protocol? In the X11 world, all WMs didn't have to agree on a screen capture protocol. Note that there are discussions in progress to improve communication between Wayland compositor writers.