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Nonsense. Can you provide a way I can get Equifax and similar companies to stop stealing and selling my data? I've been trying to do that for decades. No. Your

by mnm1 8y ago

Nonsense. Can you provide a way I can get Equifax and similar companies to stop stealing and selling my data? I've been trying to do that for decades. No. Your argument is bullshit. I didn't sign up for this shit and neither did anyone else, yet we still got fucked. How do you propose we fix it now? The cellular companies are still selling my data. Should I not own a cell phone because I can't get a cell plan that won't steal and sell my data? The ISPs are selling my data. Should I not have an Internet connection? Yes, I can get rid of those, lose my job, be homeless and starve while I wait for the idiot masses to do the same so maybe a competitor could rise up. That's your brilliant solution. And it still doesn't deal with the fact that companies I didn't sign up with are stealing and selling my data.

simplecomplex 8y ago
Equifax is a credit reporting agency. So, for example, someone gets a loan from a bank, then fails to pay it and the bank reports that to them. Other lenders check with them before lending to people. You’re being disingenuous by equating that with theft.
- mnm1 8y ago
  Not patching servers for months and leaving them for attackers to exploit is definitely stealing. It doesn't matter how they got the data, they let others steal it and were therefore complicit in the theft itself due to negligence, willful or not.
  - simplecomplex 8y ago
    Yeah, they didn’t steal your data. They were negligent with storing data on you given to them by lenders, and if you can demonstrate you were actually damaged by their negligence you can join the class action that’s happening. You should have got an email about it. I know I did.
mimixco 8y ago
You can get out of the credit game. You can use a cell phone without a Google account, or buy one of the new open source ones coming to market. No one needs a social network like FB. Just stop using it and they will go away.
mimixco 8y ago
And actually, you did sign up for it. You might not have read it, but every credit app you sign gives them permission to do exactly that. Do you need credit cards to survive? No, you don't. If you sign up, you get what you deserve. While consumer credit is a useful service, Facebook is not. No one's life or business is going to be affected because they don't have FB. If you oppose their business model, simply quit and they will wither away and die. Facebook will not be "a thing" in 10 years. If more people quit today, it could have a shorter lifespan that that.

by mnm1 8y ago

simplecomplex 8y ago

Equifax is a credit reporting agency. So, for example, someone gets a loan from a bank, then fails to pay it and the bank reports that to them. Other lenders check with them before lending to people. You’re being disingenuous by equating that with theft.

mnm1 8y ago
Not patching servers for months and leaving them for attackers to exploit is definitely stealing. It doesn't matter how they got the data, they let others steal it and were therefore complicit in the theft itself due to negligence, willful or not.
- simplecomplex 8y ago
  Yeah, they didn’t steal your data. They were negligent with storing data on you given to them by lenders, and if you can demonstrate you were actually damaged by their negligence you can join the class action that’s happening. You should have got an email about it. I know I did.

mimixco 8y ago

You can get out of the credit game. You can use a cell phone without a Google account, or buy one of the new open source ones coming to market. No one needs a social network like FB. Just stop using it and they will go away.

mimixco 8y ago

And actually, you did sign up for it. You might not have read it, but every credit app you sign gives them permission to do exactly that. Do you need credit cards to survive? No, you don't. If you sign up, you get what you deserve. While consumer credit is a useful service, Facebook is not. No one's life or business is going to be affected because they don't have FB. If you oppose their business model, simply quit and they will wither away and die. Facebook will not be "a thing" in 10 years. If more people quit today, it could have a shorter lifespan that that.