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Being shocked about this happening in 2019 in either Apple's or Google's app store represents an incredible lack of even cursory research on the author's part.

by blihp 8y ago

Being shocked about this happening in 2019 in either Apple's or Google's app store represents an incredible lack of even cursory research on the author's part. Unless the author shares specific details showing that the ban of the associated account was inappropriate, my reaction is: good, glad you got booted. If one of the people you chose to associate your account with was previously a bad actor or involved with one, there's no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt because you have at least demonstrated bad judgement. For years people have been playing a game of whack-a-mole where when one account gets terminated they pop up with another. Since your entire business apparently depended on the app stores (a bad idea to begin with) being in good standing with them is therefore vital and it was incumbent on you to vet the people you were in business with. (i.e. sure, be in business with them if you choose. But if you decide to associate your single point of failure business account with them and they fail to disclose that they were associated with something shady in the past, your beef is with them not the app store)

javajosh 8y ago
The way I read your comment is that you've somehow managed to internalize being treated like crap by large organizations, and you expect others to be as sanguine as you are about it. Luckily, this is not the case. Many people still have a sense of dignity, of what is right, and what is unacceptable behavior, and express their discontent when mistreated. And hopefully they will continue to do so despite the unkind, unwise, and ultimately self-defeating voices like yours that preach unthinking self-abasement as the correct reaction to an automated rebuke from the powerful. May you get what you desire.
- blihp 8y ago
  No, I was not accepting an argument that came across as 'our account was terminated and we have the RIGHT to be reinstated because this new account has done nothing wrong' In many other types of businesses it is rather common to be judged by the company one keeps. Given the importance of the app store account to this business, it seemed rather critical to keep it in good standing which would include vetting those they associated with it. I admit that I was judging the story by the details that weren't included as I found the omission of them as the most relevant. Perhaps the flagging of the account in question was in fact wrongly done but it seems incumbent on the author of the article to make that case which they did not, in my opinion. Here's the thing that really annoys me about this whole topic: I'm not a fan of the direction the app stores have gone (either as a user or a developer.) I'd much rather be reading and participating in discussions about what's going to disrupt them.
  - dhimes 8y ago
    Not a right to be reinstated, necessarily, but at least the right to be heard.
jpambrun 8y ago
You are asking people, possibly non-technical people, to do thorough background check on each prospective associates and past associates of prospective associates. The not feasible nor reasonable.
- blihp 8y ago
  I'm suggesting a business person conduct themselves like a business person. While I understand that they might have been enthusiastic and inexperienced, there is a reason things like contracts and due diligence exist in the world. Businesses of all sorts, generally run by very non-technical people, need to do background checks on people in key positions all the time to avoid exactly these sorts of issues. For an app store based business, anyone associated with the app's account is in a key position. What is it about an app store-based business that is supposed to make them immune from these realities?

by blihp 8y ago

javajosh 8y ago

The way I read your comment is that you've somehow managed to internalize being treated like crap by large organizations, and you expect others to be as sanguine as you are about it. Luckily, this is not the case. Many people still have a sense of dignity, of what is right, and what is unacceptable behavior, and express their discontent when mistreated. And hopefully they will continue to do so despite the unkind, unwise, and ultimately self-defeating voices like yours that preach unthinking self-abasement as the correct reaction to an automated rebuke from the powerful. May you get what you desire.

blihp 8y ago
No, I was not accepting an argument that came across as 'our account was terminated and we have the RIGHT to be reinstated because this new account has done nothing wrong' In many other types of businesses it is rather common to be judged by the company one keeps. Given the importance of the app store account to this business, it seemed rather critical to keep it in good standing which would include vetting those they associated with it. I admit that I was judging the story by the details that weren't included as I found the omission of them as the most relevant. Perhaps the flagging of the account in question was in fact wrongly done but it seems incumbent on the author of the article to make that case which they did not, in my opinion. Here's the thing that really annoys me about this whole topic: I'm not a fan of the direction the app stores have gone (either as a user or a developer.) I'd much rather be reading and participating in discussions about what's going to disrupt them.
- dhimes 8y ago
  Not a right to be reinstated, necessarily, but at least the right to be heard.

jpambrun 8y ago

You are asking people, possibly non-technical people, to do thorough background check on each prospective associates and past associates of prospective associates. The not feasible nor reasonable.

blihp 8y ago
I'm suggesting a business person conduct themselves like a business person. While I understand that they might have been enthusiastic and inexperienced, there is a reason things like contracts and due diligence exist in the world. Businesses of all sorts, generally run by very non-technical people, need to do background checks on people in key positions all the time to avoid exactly these sorts of issues. For an app store based business, anyone associated with the app's account is in a key position. What is it about an app store-based business that is supposed to make them immune from these realities?