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Could someone please sue Intel (possibly together with Lenovo, HP, Dell and god knows who else) for gimping the PCI Express over Thunderbolt 3 transfer speed to
by chx 8y ago
Could someone please sue Intel (possibly together with Lenovo, HP, Dell and god knows who else) for gimping the PCI Express over Thunderbolt 3 transfer speed to 22 gbit/s and yet having everyone and their dog advertise it as 40 gbit/s?? To begin with, they are feeding only four PCI Express 3.0 lanes into the controller so even without these strange limitation it would never be more than 32 gbit/s -- but it's 22. (Yes, the connector, the full bus can carry 40 gbit/s but it will only do so if you are using monitor(s) requiring more video bandwidth than a single 4K @ 60 Hz.)
https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zbook-x360/index.html https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zbook-x360/index.html
> Experience faster file upload and transfer speeds with Thunderbolt™ 3 - faster than USB 3.0 at 40 Gbps.
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/ThinkPad-P72/p/22WS2WPWP72 https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/Thi...
> With dual Thunderbolt™ 3 ports, you can simultaneously use a 4K display and high-performance storage device—and tap blazingly-fast speeds at up to 40 Gbps.
These are factually false, many on the egpu.io measured it and it's 22gbps and Figure 7 in the Technology Brief clearly shows it as well. https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunderbolt3_TechBrief_FINAL.pdf https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunde...
Targus admits so:
https://us.targus.com/blogs/discover-targus/thunderbolt-3-usb-type-c https://us.targus.com/blogs/discover-targus/thunderbolt-3-us...
> at full Thunderbolt 3 data bandwidth of 22 Gbps.
Dell admits too but you need to look very hard:
https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln307875/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-maximum-data-transfer-rate-on-dell-systems?lang=en https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln307875/thun...
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Thunderbolt 3 may only reach a maximum data transfer rate of around 7 to 22Gbps even though it is advertised with 40Gbps
> Although Thunderbolt 3 is advertised with a bidirectional total data transfer rate of 40Gbps, simple data transfer like networking data or storage data are limited to a total of 22Gbps as per the official Thunderbolt 3 specifications.
Why do you need to look hard? Because everywhere else, even in the single article linked from the above confession:
https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/qna44089/thunderbolt-3-40gbps-data-transfer-rate?lang=en https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/qna44089/thund...
> Systems with the 2 lane design will only support up to 20gbps data transfers over PCIe devices such as external hard drives or video cards that use PCIe. Systems with 4 lane design will support up to 40gbps of data transfer over PCIe depending on the device in use.