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active warmup, static cool down, focused stretching on risk areas (tendons) maybe a foam roller on the old IT band, and a trip to the sauna if i have time. see

active warmup, static cool down, focused stretching on risk areas (tendons) maybe a foam roller on the old IT band, and a trip to the sauna if i have time. seems to work fine. cupping seems like obvious woo, for sure.

kiba 8y ago
How do you know if it actually work or just placebo? I don't really do warmup or cooldown because they're a waste of time when I have to do cardio for ~20 minutes and one hour for weightlifting.
- hprotagonist 8y ago
  well, i don’t have to go to PT when i warmup and stretch. i’ve previously run into tendon and joint issues from not taking care of myself afterwards. i think that regular core exercise is a broad-spectrum anti-injury treatment...but it doesn’t protect against ITBS, and my jacked up shoulder complains when i don’t do my normal PT warmups for it. at this point it’s so fully part of The Gym Ritual that it’s automatic anyway. the sauna is mostly a psychological luxury, but that’s important too.
- asdffdsa 8y ago
  Ime, I used to run occasionally and never warmed up, but once I started running more seriously (5-6x a week, interval/long runs, ~20 miles a week) injuries popped up right and left (knees, hamstring, shin splints). Warming up improves range of motion and flexibility, and I run with much better form. Cooling down I dont do as much, but I do focus in muscles that feel tight. Tight muscles tend to have poor flexibility and can lead to injury and poor performance.
nihonde 8y ago
In my experience, cupping is able to pull muscles in ways that bending your body cannot. I never cared about the claims of detoxification, but the ability to effectively grab hold of a muscle and pull it is what I found helpful from my few experiences with cupping.
- benj111 8y ago
  So you're saying it's basically a massage?
  - nihonde 8y ago
    I guess it depends on how you define massage. Short of cutting a person open, I can’t imagine another way to pull on the muscle except through vacuum pressure.
girzel 8y ago
My PT guy said they're apparently finding real effects for cupping. I don't remember the details, but the outline was that cupping is controlled bruising, and your body reacts to bruising by going into "fix-it mode" (that's the technical medical term) in that area, and that can help speed recovery from other injuries in that area. So it's not "detoxification", but rather stimulating healing functions. This was a two-minute conversation, so...
- jamiek88 8y ago
  Generally inflammation is a bad thing. Interesting to see the long term science on this, if it’s ever done.
  - 0xcde4c3db 8y ago
    Inflammation isn't bad per se. It's a component of many disorders, but it's also a normal and necessary biological process.
  - gamblor956 8y ago
    Chronic inflammation is bad. Temporal inflammation is usually good.
dminor 8y ago
Stretching and foam rolling have no recovery benefits and don't prevent injury, according to meta-analysis of the studies of them. But, they probably also won't hurt you (possible exception for static stretching before exercising).
- hprotagonist 8y ago
  They feel nice, anyway. And it's part of The Ritual.

kiba 8y ago

How do you know if it actually work or just placebo? I don't really do warmup or cooldown because they're a waste of time when I have to do cardio for ~20 minutes and one hour for weightlifting.

hprotagonist 8y ago
well, i don’t have to go to PT when i warmup and stretch. i’ve previously run into tendon and joint issues from not taking care of myself afterwards. i think that regular core exercise is a broad-spectrum anti-injury treatment...but it doesn’t protect against ITBS, and my jacked up shoulder complains when i don’t do my normal PT warmups for it. at this point it’s so fully part of The Gym Ritual that it’s automatic anyway. the sauna is mostly a psychological luxury, but that’s important too.
asdffdsa 8y ago
Ime, I used to run occasionally and never warmed up, but once I started running more seriously (5-6x a week, interval/long runs, ~20 miles a week) injuries popped up right and left (knees, hamstring, shin splints). Warming up improves range of motion and flexibility, and I run with much better form. Cooling down I dont do as much, but I do focus in muscles that feel tight. Tight muscles tend to have poor flexibility and can lead to injury and poor performance.

nihonde 8y ago

In my experience, cupping is able to pull muscles in ways that bending your body cannot. I never cared about the claims of detoxification, but the ability to effectively grab hold of a muscle and pull it is what I found helpful from my few experiences with cupping.

benj111 8y ago
So you're saying it's basically a massage?
- nihonde 8y ago
  I guess it depends on how you define massage. Short of cutting a person open, I can’t imagine another way to pull on the muscle except through vacuum pressure.

girzel 8y ago

My PT guy said they're apparently finding real effects for cupping. I don't remember the details, but the outline was that cupping is controlled bruising, and your body reacts to bruising by going into "fix-it mode" (that's the technical medical term) in that area, and that can help speed recovery from other injuries in that area. So it's not "detoxification", but rather stimulating healing functions. This was a two-minute conversation, so...

jamiek88 8y ago
Generally inflammation is a bad thing. Interesting to see the long term science on this, if it’s ever done.
- 0xcde4c3db 8y ago
  Inflammation isn't bad per se. It's a component of many disorders, but it's also a normal and necessary biological process.
- gamblor956 8y ago
  Chronic inflammation is bad. Temporal inflammation is usually good.

dminor 8y ago

Stretching and foam rolling have no recovery benefits and don't prevent injury, according to meta-analysis of the studies of them. But, they probably also won't hurt you (possible exception for static stretching before exercising).

hprotagonist 8y ago
They feel nice, anyway. And it's part of The Ritual.