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Why not call a spade a spade. Better title would be "We need to talk about systematic fraud in China" It's hardly a secret. Any grad student in America already
by luminati 8y ago
Why not call a spade a spade. Better title would be "We need to talk about systematic fraud in China"
It's hardly a secret. Any grad student in America already knows this - about the blatant/incredulous cheating and plagiarism that goes on between Chinese students. But oh no, can't talk about it. 'Coz it's racist y'know.
- epmaybe 8y agoThis is moving the goalposts in a dangerous way. You're suggesting that fraud isn't as big of a problem in the US or other countries, when in fact it definitely is. Chinese academics didn't force academics in the USA to fudge data, or play with statistics.
- dgcoffman 8y ago> In a 2016 study1 in Scientometrics, Byrne and Labbé reported 48 problematic papers, including the 30 papers that had incorrectly identified nucleotide fragments. These were all written by authors from China.
- epmaybe 8y agoRight, I'm not denying that the story linked was about fraud in China. But nowhere do they state that the problem is limited to Chinese researchers.
- falsedan 8y agoIt is racist! Making generalised judgements about an entire group of people based on their ethnicity background is classic racism.
- pault 8y agoChina's population consists of more than one race. I'm all for political correctness but we need to distinguish between racial stereotyping and criticisms of a nation state.
- twic 8y agoMoreover, between racial stereotyping and criticisms of certain policies of the current government of a nation state. To choose the maximally flamebaity example, i might not like the current Israeli administration's policy towards Palestinians, but that doesn't make me an antisemite, or even anti-Israeli.
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- leftyted 8y agoIf you're saying "Chinese people are predisposed to cheat and lie" -- that's racist. If you're saying "The academic culture in China is such that cheating and lying is widespread" -- that's not racist. I'm pretty sure the post you responded to is making the latter claim.
- y2kenny 8y agoThe problem is, when you use the term "Chinese" do you include people from Taiwan and Hong Kong? And are you attributing the bad behaviours to the historical Chinese culture that has thousands of years of history or the comparatively recent (last century) rule by the communist regime? The problem with the parent statement is that it has the typical lack of precision and accuracy of a racist statement.