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My wife went to high school with a big, nice guy who got in a fight in his senior year. He connected to the other guy's jaw. The other guy fell, hit his head, a

by T_S_ 16y ago

My wife went to high school with a big, nice guy who got in a fight in his senior year. He connected to the other guy's jaw. The other guy fell, hit his head, and later died. A manslaughter charge was the least of his problems; the guilt was worse. Turn the other cheek. Avoid sustained eye contact with drunk men in bars. Drive courteously.

angrycoder 16y ago
That kind of fluke thing could have just have easily have happened to the 'nice guy', and he would be the dead one right now. Its not clear who in your story was the aggressor, but there is no shame in defending yourself. And of course, violence is always the last option.
- T_S_ 16y ago
  Pure self-defense, sure, no legal guilt and no public shame. Privately, who knows? They were both 'nice guys' BTW.
  - AndyKelley 16y ago
    How can the other guy be a 'nice guy' if it was pure self-defense? Was he just having a rotten day?
    - T_S_ 16y ago
      The first sentence of my reply was in the hypothetical world posed by the previous message. As to the actual fight, I don't know who started the fight, or who had pure motives. The judgement of 'nice' is more to indicate that we are not talking about 'badass' guys who made a habit of fighting.
      - AndyKelley 16y ago
        I understand. It's a good point. There aren't really any evil people. Just stupid decisions.
brc 16y ago
Don't forget the story of Nick D'Arcy. Never heard of him? I'm not surprised. He's an Australian swimmer and holder of the Australian 200m Butterfly record. He was supposed to take it to Michael Phelps at the 2008 Olympics, where he had a realistic chance of winning Gold or Silver. Unfortunately for him, he got drunk at the party celebrating his inclusion in the 2008 Olympic squad. He took offense with another (retired gold medallist) swimmer at the party and punched him, shattering his jaw and skull. D'Arcy was charged with Assualt, and convicted, receiving a suspended jail sentence. He was stripped of his place in the 2008 Olympics and 2009 World Championships and is unlikely to make it to the 2012 London Olympics based on poor form and a lingering failed drug test outcome. All because he got drunk and decided to hit someone, probably 5-10 years of preparation and work down the drain, a promising career and future financial success all destroyed. No sporting company will touch him for endorsements, even if he does succeed again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_DArcy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_DArcy

by T_S_ 16y ago

angrycoder 16y ago

That kind of fluke thing could have just have easily have happened to the 'nice guy', and he would be the dead one right now. Its not clear who in your story was the aggressor, but there is no shame in defending yourself. And of course, violence is always the last option.

T_S_ 16y ago
Pure self-defense, sure, no legal guilt and no public shame. Privately, who knows? They were both 'nice guys' BTW.
- AndyKelley 16y ago
  How can the other guy be a 'nice guy' if it was pure self-defense? Was he just having a rotten day?
  - T_S_ 16y ago
    The first sentence of my reply was in the hypothetical world posed by the previous message. As to the actual fight, I don't know who started the fight, or who had pure motives. The judgement of 'nice' is more to indicate that we are not talking about 'badass' guys who made a habit of fighting.
    - AndyKelley 16y ago
      I understand. It's a good point. There aren't really any evil people. Just stupid decisions.

brc 16y ago

Don't forget the story of Nick D'Arcy. Never heard of him? I'm not surprised. He's an Australian swimmer and holder of the Australian 200m Butterfly record. He was supposed to take it to Michael Phelps at the 2008 Olympics, where he had a realistic chance of winning Gold or Silver. Unfortunately for him, he got drunk at the party celebrating his inclusion in the 2008 Olympic squad. He took offense with another (retired gold medallist) swimmer at the party and punched him, shattering his jaw and skull. D'Arcy was charged with Assualt, and convicted, receiving a suspended jail sentence. He was stripped of his place in the 2008 Olympics and 2009 World Championships and is unlikely to make it to the 2012 London Olympics based on poor form and a lingering failed drug test outcome. All because he got drunk and decided to hit someone, probably 5-10 years of preparation and work down the drain, a promising career and future financial success all destroyed. No sporting company will touch him for endorsements, even if he does succeed again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_DArcy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_DArcy